Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: whats a beefalo burger?? From: Vickie Buck Taylor
- 2a.
- Re: Hair loss, Dibetes, treatment for hair loss etc From: Elizabeth Gonzales Anderson
- 3.
- Beefalo From: mitchell woodson
- 4a.
- Sugar drops..... From: DavidF
- 4b.
- Re: Sugar drops..... From: Holly Shaltz
- 4c.
- Re: Sugar drops..... From: David Fooce
- 5a.
- newly diagnosed/not really From: judi dawson
- 5b.
- Re: newly diagnosed/not really From: Holly Shaltz
- 5c.
- Can someone help me to understand From: james Fuller
- 5d.
- Re: newly diagnosed/not really From: Dorothy Wurth
- 5e.
- Re: Can someone help me to understand From: Jude
- 5f.
- Re: Can someone help me to understand From: Racheal Barrick
- 5g.
- Re: Can someone help me to understand From: james Fuller
- 5h.
- Re: Can someone help me to understand From: james Fuller
- 6a.
- Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times? From: judi dawson
- 6b.
- Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times? From: rodneyyah
- 6c.
- Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times? From: rodneyyah
- 7a.
- Dex 4 Glucose Bits From: Jude
- 7b.
- Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits From: Holly Shaltz
- 7c.
- Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits From: Holly Shaltz
- 7d.
- Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits From: Jude
- 7e.
- Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits From: Michael
- 8a.
- Dex4 Glucose Bits From: Michael
- 8b.
- Re: Dex4 Glucose Bits From: Holly Shaltz
- 9.
- HELP! confused about it all.. From: ianswermyemail
Messages
- 1.1.
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Re: whats a beefalo burger??
Posted by: "Vickie Buck Taylor" derfsvic@yahoo.com derfsvic
Mon Jan 4, 2010 4:23 am (PST)
There are actually some Beefalo's down the road from where I live. They are a cross between buffalo and a Texas Longhorn type of cow. They are supposed to be very very lean. Never had any of the meat but they are interesting to look at when we drive by down the road.
Vickie
West Virginia
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From: GJ <gj.lentz76@gmail.com >
To: Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 2:02:02 PM
Subject: [Type-2-Diabetes] Re: whats a beefalo burger??
Never heard of a beefalo burger...curiouse about the food allergy talk, as i have posted my problems with hives. ive also tried cutting out specific food types, even though the allergist tested for the "commons" that ive never had issues with anyway. finished my zyrtec and sure enough i have puffy, splotchy, irritating, hivey break out on my arm, so he has set up some blood work as he anticipated this *rolls my eyes*
seen a lot about seeing an endo on here, im due to see one myself because i have kallmans, so im seeing that maybe an endo is a good choice for a diabetic care dr as well?
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Re: Hair loss, Dibetes, treatment for hair loss etc
Posted by: "Elizabeth Gonzales Anderson" emarshall1969@yahoo.com emarshall1969
Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:09 am (PST)
Hi,
I was diagnosed in March of last year with Type 2 diabetes and had noticed my hair had been falling out. My dr recently checked me for B12 deficiancy but it was normal. I am on no meds at all. But have recently started taking Vitamin E, Multivitamin and Cinnamon pills and my hair has seemed to slow down in falling out. Not sure if this is helping. I have very long hair and so it was noticeable when I would lose a bunch of it. But happy since it has slowed.
Elizabeth
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From: Amal <amal_mba10@yahoo.com >
To: Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 2:36:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Type-2-Diabetes] Hair loss, Dibetes, treatment for hair loss etc
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Judy Crompton <kaiverj@yahoo. com> wrote:
>Hi All,
>I was dignosed a year ago with type 2 diabetes I have been switched from pills to insulin and back and forth, at one time I was taking metphormin and my hair starting falling out, Is that normal? I'm only 24 and had to shave my head.
>
>
>************ ********* ****** Judy, It is preferable you ask your doctor to run some tests for you in order to determine the cause? I took Metformin the first few months after diagnosis early 2008. I could not tolerate the drug for various reasons. My uncle is on the medication and takes vitamin B12 with it as advised by his doctor.
>Take care.
>
>
>Amal
>
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Beefalo
Posted by: "mitchell woodson" gaurdgoose@yahoo.com gaurdgoose
Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:09 am (PST)
Beefalo is a cross between Domestic beef cattle and Bison
- 4a.
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Sugar drops.....
Posted by: "DavidF" deslotgod@yahoo.com deslotgod
Mon Jan 4, 2010 6:09 am (PST)
I got up yesterday for work with a sinus infection,low fever.etc so I felt like crap and breakfast was nauseating to even consider,so I skipped it , about 5 hrs later after a morning of running my tail off all over work,I did force down 1/4 of a chicken breast fillet for lunch,,my sugar was at 118 so I was doing fine,just run down from being sick,all of a suddent about 45 minutes later I felt like superman,bouncing off the walls, power walking everywhere and almost giddy with enegry/excitement, a lot to wound up for me normally ,especially at work,I also was going 90 miles an hour getting nothing done,and couldnt set still ,as well as feeling shakey and just way off kilter...so I tested again, HMMM...58,now that cant be right,I tried another finger a few minutes later 56..I went and sat down for a half hour and tried again,61 ...Considered using some suger tablets,but Im not sure how low I should let it go before taking action,seems I have a question for my doctor today after all, finally decided to eat some P-butter and crackers and went home,cause by then I was feeling really,really awful..after the snack and a hour or so laying down relaxing/meditating I was back to 104 and stayed in the "normal" range the rest of the evening (100-114)...I definitly do not like feeling like I do post-lows (tho the energy rush is sort of cool as I crash)..I suspect my body was over compensating for being sick .and with no food intake and excercise,I just burned off every bit of available sugar in one huge flash,but thats just my best WAG. ...Dave
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Re: Sugar drops.....
Posted by: "Holly Shaltz" holly@shaltzfarm.com hollyshaltz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 9:20 am (PST)
Dave writes:
<<I got up yesterday for work with a sinus
infection,low fever.etc so I felt like crap and
breakfast was nauseating to even consider,so I
skipped it>>
Not a great idea, as you know :) Much depends on
the type of meds we're on, if any, but skipping
meals can play merry hell with BGs, sick or not,
and make you feel that much worse.
<<feeling shakey and just way off kilter...so I
tested again, HMMM...58,now that cant be right,I
tried another finger a few minutes later 56..I
went and sat down for a half hour and tried
again,61 >>
It's reasonable to do a second test if the first
doesn't fit how you're feeling, but come ON Dave,
you know better than that :) Lows are potentially
serious, and nothing to be trifled with. Have you
had any training on how to treat them?
You were lower than a "normal" BG as Dr Bernstein
defines it (83) by about 20-25 points. I know
about *my* body that 1 g of glucose tablet will
raise my BG about 5 points. So I would, in your
situation, take a 4-g glucose tablet, then retest
in 15 minutes. Since I seem to be slower than
most in assimilating the tablets, if I haven't
continued to drop but am remaining steady at 15
minutes, I'd retest again after another 15
minutes, and confidently expect to see a rise
around my goal of 83. If not, then more glucose
if needed.
Treating a low in a timely manner, pinpointing
what you use like this, doesn't just keep you from
the dangers of going lower, and doesn't just save
you from a rebound later, it also just plain makes
you feel better all over for the rest of today and
into tomorrow.
<<finally decided to eat some P-butter and
crackers and went home,cause by then I was feeling
really,really awful.>>
Back before I knew about how to use glucose
tablets effectively, I sometimes tried that, and
it doesn't work very well. The PB and crackers
have fat in them, which slows digestion somewhat.
The crackers will give some fast-acting carb,
but not as fast as glucose tablets or the old ADA
standbys of milk, juice, or regular soda. And you
can easily overshoot the amount of glucose you
need and end up with BGs much higher than you
want, which stresses your body, compounding the
lousy way you already felt from going low.
When next you go out, buy a bottle of glucose
tablets (I like raspberry best, although none of
them taste really good :), and a tube of them, and
keep the tube with you at all times. If you
really don't have a way to carry the tube, then
wrap a couple tablets in foil or plastic, and keep
them in a pocket.
When you're home and your BGs are stable some time
soon, find out how much one tablet raises your BG,
and how fast. Then you will have a good idea of
how much to take to correct lows.
Dr Bernstein writes that someone who weighs 140
pounds will have the BG raised about 5 points for
every gram of glucose. Someone half that weight
(70 pounds) will have twice the effect; someone
twice that weight will have half that effect.
Handily for me, I weigh about 140 right now :)
But I confirmed the glucose's impact on my BGs,
and also learned it hits me pretty slow - equally
important to know in case of a low.
Ask your doctor for sick-day instructions. If you
don't get something that's crystal-clear (I
certainly didn't - it was left to the diabetes
classes to explain what to do) - maybe you can get
something useful from the ADA website. I found
this page
<http://www.diabetes.org/living- >with-diabetes/ treatment- and-care/ who-is-on- your-healthcare- team/when- youre-sick. html
when I searched their site (though I wouldn't be
eating what they recommend - too carby by far for
me! :) I keep my sick-day instructions in a
binder under "emergency". That way I won't have
to go online or scrounge around when I'm not
feeling good.
I'm glad you didn't go any lower than you did! I
hope you're feeling better today.
Holly in MI
- 4c.
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Re: Sugar drops.....
Posted by: "David Fooce" deslotgod@yahoo.com deslotgod
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:37 am (PST)
Thanks,Holly...no Ive had no instruction on low blood sugar,except "dont have that..." I have the tablets,but wasnt sure when to use them..So I was torn between cracker/PB and something like orange juice,and didnt want to over shoot by a mile. Today i feel excellent and everything is spot on,had a great consult with my doc this AM,got all my blood work results,weights down a bit, triglycerides are slightly up HDL is perfect,some tests i dont understand what mean were well within range,and one showed i have some inflamation or something going on (didnt know blood could even show that) however just slightly and Im a 42 yr old mechanic,something is always sore or inflamed,so the .3 or so elevation was fine..Kidney function tests were absolutely excellent..so basicly aside from being a overweight,middle aged diabetic Im the picture of health..and at 122/68 my BP is just fine on the halved dose of meds ,so thats very cool too.
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Holly Shaltz <holly@shaltzfarm.com > wrote:
From: Holly Shaltz <holly@shaltzfarm.com >
Subject: Re: [Type-2-Diabetes] Sugar drops.....
To: Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:20 PM
Dave writes:
<<I got up yesterday for work with a sinus
infection,low fever.etc so I felt like crap and
breakfast was nauseating to even consider,so I
skipped it>>
Not a great idea, as you know :) Much depends on
the type of meds we're on, if any, but skipping
meals can play merry hell with BGs, sick or not,
and make you feel that much worse.
<<feeling shakey and just way off kilter...so I
tested again, HMMM...58,now that cant be right,I
tried another finger a few minutes later 56..I
went and sat down for a half hour and tried
again,61 >>
It's reasonable to do a second test if the first
doesn't fit how you're feeling, but come ON Dave,
you know better than that :) Lows are potentially
serious, and nothing to be trifled with. Have you
had any training on how to treat them?
You were lower than a "normal" BG as Dr Bernstein
defines it (83) by about 20-25 points. I know
about *my* body that 1 g of glucose tablet will
raise my BG about 5 points. So I would, in your
situation, take a 4-g glucose tablet, then retest
in 15 minutes. Since I seem to be slower than
most in assimilating the tablets, if I haven't
continued to drop but am remaining steady at 15
minutes, I'd retest again after another 15
minutes, and confidently expect to see a rise
around my goal of 83. If not, then more glucose
if needed.
Treating a low in a timely manner, pinpointing
what you use like this, doesn't just keep you from
the dangers of going lower, and doesn't just save
you from a rebound later, it also just plain makes
you feel better all over for the rest of today and
into tomorrow.
<<finally decided to eat some P-butter and
crackers and went home,cause by then I was feeling
really,really awful.>>
Back before I knew about how to use glucose
tablets effectively, I sometimes tried that, and
it doesn't work very well. The PB and crackers
have fat in them, which slows digestion somewhat.
The crackers will give some fast-acting carb,
but not as fast as glucose tablets or the old ADA
standbys of milk, juice, or regular soda. And you
can easily overshoot the amount of glucose you
need and end up with BGs much higher than you
want, which stresses your body, compounding the
lousy way you already felt from going low.
When next you go out, buy a bottle of glucose
tablets (I like raspberry best, although none of
them taste really good :), and a tube of them, and
keep the tube with you at all times. If you
really don't have a way to carry the tube, then
wrap a couple tablets in foil or plastic, and keep
them in a pocket.
When you're home and your BGs are stable some time
soon, find out how much one tablet raises your BG,
and how fast. Then you will have a good idea of
how much to take to correct lows.
Dr Bernstein writes that someone who weighs 140
pounds will have the BG raised about 5 points for
every gram of glucose. Someone half that weight
(70 pounds) will have twice the effect; someone
twice that weight will have half that effect.
Handily for me, I weigh about 140 right now :)
But I confirmed the glucose's impact on my BGs,
and also learned it hits me pretty slow - equally
important to know in case of a low.
Ask your doctor for sick-day instructions. If you
don't get something that's crystal-clear (I
certainly didn't - it was left to the diabetes
classes to explain what to do) - maybe you can get
something useful from the ADA website. I found
this page
<http://www.diabetes .org/living- with-diabetes/ treatment- and-care/ who-is-on- your-healthcare- team/when- youre-sick. html>
when I searched their site (though I wouldn't be
eating what they recommend - too carby by far for
me! :) I keep my sick-day instructions in a
binder under "emergency". That way I won't have
to go online or scrounge around when I'm not
feeling good.
I'm glad you didn't go any lower than you did! I
hope you're feeling better today.
Holly in MI
- 5a.
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newly diagnosed/not really
Posted by: "judi dawson" jacknjudi@gmail.com judinjersey
Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:13 am (PST)
My granddaughter 19 years later this month. short and chunky but not fat.
she came to me as she was constantly thirsty and urinating. Her fastings are
within normal range. Her post meals are high 140 range. she is having a
physical today for a job she
has wanted and gotten. Because of the job thing she hasn't seen a doctor,
you know the old pre existing condition concerns for insurance. She
exercises on a regular basis as she eventually
wants to be a police officer. This also just started before Christmas. she
will be seeing her doc after the job process is done. now the issue. her
mom, my daughter bought Diabetes for Dummies and now thinks she knows it
all. she is insisting shelby not use sugar substitutes and to look for
things with the sugar alcohols. URGHHHH. she says she knows I use them(subs)
but she cannot encourage shelby to use them as to what they do to your body.
needless to say she doesn't get it through her head that we'd have to eat
187000 cups of them and that's on a daily basis.LOL Now she wants to know
what exchange amounts are. Trying to tell her it depends on what diet count
her doc puts her on. My advice to shelby right now is to lay off the carbs
as much as possible, nothing white and no sugar and keep up the exercise.
does anyone have any ideas on convincing mom that no sugar alcohols isn't a
bad thing and is there a website with the exchanges on it. I've also
suggested weight watchers to get the extra 10-15 pounds off. mom would
rather have her do it on her own. Sounds of me screaming!!!
Judi
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Re: newly diagnosed/not really
Posted by: "Holly Shaltz" holly@shaltzfarm.com hollyshaltz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:54 am (PST)
Judi, your caring for your granddaughter really
shines! But she's an adult and has to make her
own choices. You can offer to her what works for
*you*, but ultimately she has to pick her own
goals and decide with her health care provider the
best way to reach those goals.
On the artificial sweetener thing, I'm not happy
with them myself, though Ron will say that's just
opinion and not scientific fact :) I started
using them after 6 months of doing my best to live
without sweetened tea, etc. I don't really like
their taste, and Splenda in particular seems to
give me a mildly sore throat. But I have to say
they've improved my quality of life overall.
No one could have convinced me of that at the
wrong moment - and again, it's up to Shelby to
decide for herself whether she will use them.
Using them isn't the end of the world, anyway - I
would say it's one of the least important aspects
of managing diabetes. And, if she's lucky and
she's caught early enough, maybe she can still use
small amounts of sugar if she really wants.
I would just point out to her that many sugar
alcohols do impact BGs for many diabetics, and
that most have the side effect of diarrhea if too
much is consumed. Then she can test around using
them, if she chooses to try them, to see what
balance works for her.
As for Weight Watchers, that doesn't work for
everyone, and *again*, it's up to Shelby to decide
what she'll do about losing weight if she does, in
fact, need to lose any - her doctor will help her
figure out what she needs to lose. If she focuses
on controlling her BG into the near-normal range,
she may lose weight without having to worry about it.
If you can step back, take a deep, cleansing
breath, and remember you're *not* her mother,
"only" :) her grandmother (though clearly a very
caring, loving, and concerned grandmother!), and
back waaaay off, you may find Shelby coming to you
to ask questions. Probably you're being careful
about giving unwanted advice, and just venting on
the list, which is perfectly OK but might give
some wrong impressions (and just how would *I*
know that? <g>).
In a similar situation for me, my DIL is pregnant
with her first, and her mom is diabetic, and I
think my own diabetes started during my first
pregnancy, so I'm *really* tempted to offer all
kinds of unwanted advice about gestational
diabetes, pregnancy, parenting, and on and on :)
I want to share what I learned so painfully, in
order to spare her much of the negative crap I
ended up dealing with.
But she's an adult, she's intelligent, she has her
own mother, and I won't jeopardize our
relationship by risking becoming the traditional
bitchy MIL. So I sit on my hands instead - if she
asks anything, I will answer with my experience,
but other than that I won't interfere.
It's hard to do this with people we love, but as
with all life-changing events, they have to walk
through it themselves. We can offer to hold hands
- go to the doctor with them, buy a book we
believe is worth reading for them, answer
questions when asked - but that's it! *They* have
to make the choices that seem right to them based
on where they're at. *We* cannot force, or often
even influence them toward, what *we* think is right.
Do report back how Shelby manages - hey, maybe she
will join the list?
Holly in MI
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Can someone help me to understand
Posted by: "james Fuller" james@plateautel.net james1qaz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:33 am (PST)
Hi,
Yesterday evening we had steak and salad for dinner. I forgot to test 1
hour after but after two hours my BG was 86
I did not eat anything after dinner. This morning my BG was 84. I took
my daily 500mg of metformin before breakfast.
for breakfast I had 1 egg and one "the amazing egg" substitute scrambled
together along with one sausage patty. Both the
egg sub and the sausage were marked 1 gram carb per serving. An hour
after eating I tested at 144 bg. 2 hours after eating I was back down
to 108 BG. I don't understand what drives my bg up so far with only 2
carbs.
Any Ideas?
thanks,
James Fuller
>
>
>
- 5d.
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Re: newly diagnosed/not really
Posted by: "Dorothy Wurth" dottie.wurth@yahoo.com dottie.wurth
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:38 am (PST)
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, judi dawson <jacknjudi@gmail.com > wrote:
My granddaughter 19 years later this month. short and chunky but not fat. she came to me as she was constantly thirsty and urinating. Her fastings are within normal range. Her post meals are high 140 range.
Hi Judi,
I raised one of my grandaughters who went through a similar faze of being chunky at 19. She too, wanted to be a police officer and was constantly exercising. I worried about her and made suggestions of what to do, but she didn't listen. She did find her own path, though. She is now a Lieutenant in the Army(military police), runs at least 3 miles every day, and has a figure that turns heads. She drinks diet sodas but will gobble down two KitKat bars in a blink. Both her parents suffer from mental illness, so I didn't have the conflict of them telling her what to do like you do, but she had her own mind. One thing to remember about your daughter and her response to Diabetes for Dummies. When we learn new information we often think we are experts because we don't know enough to know that we aren't. Be patient with her, in time, she will learn that she doens't know as much as she thinks she does. I hope your grandaughter gets that job.
Dottie
- 5e.
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Re: Can someone help me to understand
Posted by: "Jude" peridotjude@yahoo.com peridotjude
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:55 am (PST)
--- In Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. , james Fuller <james@...> wrote: I don't understand what drives my bg up so far with only 2com
carbs.>>
One of the normal functions of the normal liver is to take some of the circulating glucose in our bloodstreams and store it as glycogen. Then in times when it perceives we need it (after many hours of fasting, in times of more muscle demand, etc), the liver converts the glycogen back into glucose and releases some of it. In a non-diabetic, this release is unnoticed, since their pancreases can supply a bit of insulin to keep things level. Since we're challenged in that way, when the liver does its thing, our glucose level rises.
When this happens in the AM, it's called dawn phenomenon. The "cure" is to have a small snack at bedtime, something with a serving of carbs and a serving of protein.
It's also possible you're not eating enough. Are you trying to lose weight? If so, that's all fine and dandy, but as a male, you need probably at least 1200-1500 calories a day so your body doesn't go into starvation mode, you get changes in your metabolism that will slow things up, and your glucose goes wacky.
Judy D.
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Re: Can someone help me to understand
Posted by: "Racheal Barrick" rachealbarrick@gmail.com racheal_barrick
Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:05 am (PST)
Did you have anything to drink with your breakfast? Juice, milk, coffee? I
haven't found any juices that don't spike my sugar and milk throws me for a
loop as well. I can drink coffee and use splenda with a small amt of milk
in it and I don't get a spike.
HTH
Racheal
-------Original Message-------
From: james Fuller
Date: 01/04/10 13:33:37
To: Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Type-2-Diabetes] Can someone help me to understand
Hi,
Yesterday evening we had steak and salad for dinner. I forgot to test 1
hour after but after two hours my BG was 86
I did not eat anything after dinner. This morning my BG was 84. I took my
daily 500mg of metformin before breakfast.
for breakfast I had 1 egg and one "the amazing egg" substitute scrambled
together along with one sausage patty. Both the
egg sub and the sausage were marked 1 gram carb per serving. An hour after
eating I tested at 144 bg. 2 hours after eating I was back down to 108 BG.
I don't understand what drives my bg up so far with only 2 carbs.
Any Ideas?
thanks,
James Fuller
- 5g.
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Re: Can someone help me to understand
Posted by: "james Fuller" james@plateautel.net james1qaz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:55 am (PST)
Hi,
Yes, I forgot to mention that I had coffee with cream as well. No sweetener.
James
Racheal Barrick wrote:
> Did you have anything to drink with your breakfast? Juice, milk, coffee? I
> haven't found any juices that don't spike my sugar and milk throws me for a
> loop as well. I can drink coffee and use splenda with a small amt of milk
> in it and I don't get a spike.
>
> HTH
>
> Racheal
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: james Fuller
> Date: 01/04/10 13:33:37
> To: Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Type-2-Diabetes] Can someone help me to understand
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday evening we had steak and salad for dinner. I forgot to test 1
> hour after but after two hours my BG was 86
> I did not eat anything after dinner. This morning my BG was 84. I took my
> daily 500mg of metformin before breakfast.
> for breakfast I had 1 egg and one "the amazing egg" substitute scrambled
> together along with one sausage patty. Both the
> egg sub and the sausage were marked 1 gram carb per serving. An hour after
> eating I tested at 144 bg. 2 hours after eating I was back down to 108 BG.
> I don't understand what drives my bg up so far with only 2 carbs.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> thanks,
>
> James Fuller
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Can someone help me to understand
Posted by: "james Fuller" james@plateautel.net james1qaz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:57 am (PST)
Hi Jude,
Yes, I am trying to loose weight while at the same time holding my
glucose down. I have been trying to eat mostly food containing no or
little carbs and it is difficult to eat that many calories without
carbs. Actually it is more important to me to keep BG low than to loose
weight. I am 6'2" and weigh 225 so I know that I need more calories
than I'm getting. Your explanation of the liver may be right on as I
only seem to have the BG jump after breakfast.
James Fuller
Jude wrote:
> --- In Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. , james Fuller <james@...> wrote: I don't understand what drives my bg up so far with only 2com
> carbs.>>
>
> One of the normal functions of the normal liver is to take some of the circulating glucose in our bloodstreams and store it as glycogen. Then in times when it perceives we need it (after many hours of fasting, in times of more muscle demand, etc), the liver converts the glycogen back into glucose and releases some of it. In a non-diabetic, this release is unnoticed, since their pancreases can supply a bit of insulin to keep things level. Since we're challenged in that way, when the liver does its thing, our glucose level rises.
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> When this happens in the AM, it's called dawn phenomenon. The "cure" is to have a small snack at bedtime, something with a serving of carbs and a serving of protein.
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> It's also possible you're not eating enough. Are you trying to lose weight? If so, that's all fine and dandy, but as a male, you need probably at least 1200-1500 calories a day so your body doesn't go into starvation mode, you get changes in your metabolism that will slow things up, and your glucose goes wacky.
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Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times?
Posted by: "judi dawson" jacknjudi@gmail.com judinjersey
Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:14 am (PST)
I also wear my medic alert bracelet. There could be a situation where it is
torn from my wrist in an accident. So as I see it my bases are covered and I
was kidding about tattoos. Children are removed from accidents in their
carseats if at all possible. so the Epilepsy beads are helpful as at her age
she couldn't wear jewelry
judi
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Jude <peridotjude@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> --- In Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. <Type-2-Diabetes%com 40yahoogroups. com>,
> judi dawson <jacknjudi@...> wrote:the police will look for vehicle ID so
> putting a *copy* there would be acceptable. My key chain has the word
> DIABETIC spelled out with beads and a card similar to what you are making
> attached. also my wallet. My granddaughter has epilepsy and I made a chain
> with EPILEPSY in beads and attached it to her car seat. Tattoos are always
> good >>
>
> Not picking an argument here, just making a rational statement-- in the
> event of a mangled car wreck, where the firefighters have to be called to
> extricate you from your vehicle with the jaws of life, while their EMTs
> shift from foot to foot, waiting to even get at you, who exactly is going to
> check beads on a car seat, tattoos, cards attached to a car registration
> buried in the glove compartment, or something attached to your key chain,
> which might very well be buried in 6 inches of twisted steel and plastic?
>
> Just sayin'. Thanks anyway, but I'll wear my medic alert necklace.
>
> Judy D.
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Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times?
Posted by: "rodneyyah" rodneyyah@yahoo.com rodneyyah
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:37 am (PST)
<Does anyone have a standard card already that I may copy with permission to
avoid any copyright lawsuit against me? :)>
This website has a good list.
http://www.medids.com/free- id.php
Here is another list though it is rather excessive, particularly all the personal information. It is better to keep the personal information on file with a medic alert system.
http://www.preparenow.org/tipcrd. html
<I am hoping will allow paramedics to have quick access to my medication and
my condition to avoid them giving me the wrong drugs or treatment.>
Make sure you get a medic alert bracelet (this is hands down the best solution). It is good to have a list on you, but remember that if you are unconscious, medics look for medic alert jewelry. We typically do not go through wallets. Another thing to do is you can get a
"File of Life" card and put on your refrigerator. Emergency responders are also trained (at least in the US) to look on/in the refrigerator. Make sure you label it so it is visible (star of life is a good identifier). In an emergency, I won't spend a lot of time looking for something that may or may not be there. You can find kits on line through a google search. Again, these are processes in the US (I am a volunteer EMT in New Jersey) and not certain what is protocol in UK, but fairly certain star of life and medic alert jewelry are fairly universal.
Rodney
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Re: Does you carry Diabetic identification card at all times?
Posted by: "rodneyyah" rodneyyah@yahoo.com rodneyyah
Mon Jan 4, 2010 12:55 pm (PST)
As the person who will be extricating you, Judy makes a very good point, the first place I am going to look is your wrists (if still attached) for a bracelet, followed by a necklace. Bracelets are better in that there is more probability of a necklace coming off or catching on something.
On another note, we are also concerned in determining if the reason for the accident was environmental (black ice, hit something, not paying attention, etc.) or medical (having chest pains, blacked out, stroke, diabetic emergency, etc.). The reason being is do we only have injuries or is there something else possibly going on. It could determine on if we call in higher level of support, faster transportation (helicopter) and, possibly what hospital we send you to. Also, as soon as we have a safe route to get to the patient, an EMT is going to be crawling through the wreckage to do an initial assessment.
Rodney (diabetic and volunteer EMT)
Not picking an argument here, just making a rational statement-- in the event of a mangled car wreck, where the firefighters have to be called to extricate you from your vehicle with the jaws of life, while their EMTs shift from foot to foot, waiting to even get at you, who exactly is going to check beads on a car seat, tattoos, cards attached to a car registration buried in the glove compartment, or something attached to your key chain, which might very well be buried in 6 inches of twisted steel and plastic?
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Dex 4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Jude" peridotjude@yahoo.com peridotjude
Mon Jan 4, 2010 9:49 am (PST)
Holly, did you ever have any luck finding a supply of those new one carb gram glucose bits tablets? I went to Dex's website, and it says they're available at Target.
Judy D.
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Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Holly Shaltz" holly@shaltzfarm.com hollyshaltz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:03 am (PST)
No, Judy, I haven't heard where they're available.
The nearest Target for us is 70+ miles away, and
we usually don't go there when we hit that town
anyway. Did it say whether they could be ordered
online?
Holly in MI
really out in the boonies :)
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Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Holly Shaltz" holly@shaltzfarm.com hollyshaltz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:29 am (PST)
Looks like I answered my own questions - yes, they
can be ordered online:
<http://www.health-supplies. >com/DP/search/ Dex%204%20Glucos e%20Bits& idn=DEX4& affiliate= DEX4
Unfortunately the site doesn't load real well in
dial-up. I haven't tried ordering from them, so
have no idea what the service is like. If I
decide to order these, will report back :)
Holly in MI
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Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Jude" peridotjude@yahoo.com peridotjude
Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:53 am (PST)
--- In Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. , Holly Shaltz <holly@...> wrote:com
No, Judy, I haven't heard where they're available. The nearest Target for us is 70+ miles away, and we usually don't go there when we hit that town anyway. Did it say whether they could be ordered online? Holly in MI really out in the boonies :)>.
No, it just said Target. I wonder if it's such a new product that it's just a limited released thing. Go to Target's website and look. Can you let us know if you find out anything?
Judy D.
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Re: Dex 4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Michael" bigbear@acsalaska.net bigbear_ak
Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:45 am (PST)
Holly, I live less than a mile from my local Target and would be
happy to mail you a bottle if you can't get them other places.
Let me know.
--Michael
> --- In Type-2-Diabetes@yahoogroups. , Holly Shaltz <holly@...>com
> wrote:
> No, Judy, I haven't heard where they're available. The nearest
> Target for us is 70+ miles away, and we usually don't go there
> when we hit that town anyway.
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Dex4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Michael" bigbear@acsalaska.net bigbear_ak
Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:55 am (PST)
Holly, this might be the same site you found but you can also
order from the manufacturer at:
http://www.health-supplies. com/DP/DEX4. shtml&idn= dex4&Affiliate= dex4
Also, in addition to Target and Costco, the website lists the
following retailers:
Meijer, Value Plus, Drug Mart, Good Neighbor Pharmacy, Premier
Value, Walgreens, Leader, Sunmark, Publix, CVS/pharmacy, Top Care,
Rite Aid, and The Medicine Shoppe.
--Michael
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Re: Dex4 Glucose Bits
Posted by: "Holly Shaltz" holly@shaltzfarm.com hollyshaltz
Mon Jan 4, 2010 1:18 pm (PST)
Thanks for the info, and the offer to mail me
some, Michael, that's really kind! We do have a
couple of Meijer's nearby, finally, so I will try
them. I looked last time I was in one of them,
and didn't see any kind of glucose tabs other than
the standard 4 grams, but maybe I can special
order some. I'll try my pharmacy, too, they've
been willing to special order things for me in the
past.
Thanks!
Holly in MI
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HELP! confused about it all..
Posted by: "ianswermyemail" ianswermyemail@gmail.com iluv2freecycle@rocketmail.com
Mon Jan 4, 2010 12:56 pm (PST)
I am new here so let me start with a little background. I am a 32
year old mother of six kids ages from almost 2 to almost 14. I was
first diagnosed with gestational diabetes at the very end of my last
pregnancy and had a almost 10 pound baby because of it. A few months
later I was diagnosed with type-2 diabetes, my father also was
diagnosed at about my age but with severe symptoms and hospitilization
and my mother was diagnosed about a year ago at 53 years old. I have
a history of thyroid problems, I had Grave's Disease (hypothyroidism)
when I was 16 and since it was severe I was treated with radioactive
iodine when I was 19. That made me severely hypothyroid and made me
gain a lot of weight. My thyroid medication is to be taken daily
although I often forget. The days I forget I feel good and my blood
sugar is perfect. The days I remember, I am tired and have higher
blood sugar readings. We eat very healthy but with my medication I am
left feeling the symptoms of what I think are high blood sugar when I
take it.
My doctor said my blood sugar indicates type 2 diabetes but if I
lost about 15 to 20 pounds it would disappear...has anyone heard of
diabetes dissappearing? I am thinking he means the symptoms will be
gone but he is not the type that takes much time to clear things up
for you. With my hypothyroidism it is hard to lose an ounce let alone
15-20pounds, I am hoping it is even possible. He also said I do not
need to monitor my own blood sugar levels since it does not seem like
it has ever been dangerously high...meaning he will not prescribe the
strips. I bought one pack and tested in the beginning but really can
not afford that anymore. It was usually high or low and rarely in
between. I have found it hard to afford our new healthy eating style
here since veggies are more expensive than less healthy options and
brown rice is way more expensive than white rice etc. I am not a
sugar eater but I do love my carbs and do not exercise enough which I
believe caused this. I love pasta and I love rice , I still have some
but usually brown rice or brown rice pasta for my spaghetti.
Here are just some questions I could think of off hand:
1- Is it normal to be grouchy and just easily irritated?
My normal personality before this was a little sarcastic, a little
moody but overall happy. Now I am usually a big grouch and easy to
snap at everyone. Maybe it's just because I am so exhaused...insight
please.
2- Since I do not test my blood sugar is there any way to tell if the
occasional blurred vision, exhaustion or very occasional headache is
low or high blood sugar?
3- Sometimes I have all over pain, they think I may have arthritis,
could it be just the diabetes?
4- Sometimes I feel a brain fog type feeling, almost like I am
walking in a cloud and do not notice anything around me, just really
out of it, this has only happened since I have become diabetic.
Thanks for reading this :o)
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