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Saturday, January 9, 2010

[diabetescgms] Digest Number 1778

Messages In This Digest (14 Messages)

1a.
Re: going thru airport From: Jennifer McMonagle-Harris
1b.
Re: going thru airport From: Msdosse@aol.com
1c.
Re: going thru airport From: Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author
1d.
Re: going thru airport From: mommabagel@aol.com
2.1.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Elizabeth Blake
2.2.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Elizabeth Blake
2.3.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Richard Price
2.4.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: mommabagel@aol.com
2.5.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Richard Price
2.6.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: mommabagel@aol.com
2.7.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: dmslof@yahoo.com
2.8.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: tm_pearson@yahoo.com
3.
Flying with pump .... From: Signe Myhren
4.
Windows 7 From: Lisa Loftis

Messages

1a.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Jennifer McMonagle-Harris" jennifer@jharris.net   turtle4461

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:01 pm (PST)



I agree with this approach. The only time I have told anyone was when they
wanted to search my backpack, for an unrelated item. I felt I need to tell
the screener and I offered to pull everything out for him. I have been
stuck with lids fell off syringes in my bag before and I thought a warning
was appropriate.

My 3 year old flew 15,000 miles last year. If we had to be "wanded" every
time I flew, I'd drive. I have to get the 3 (me, my 3 year old and my 9
month old) of us through the check point by myself and I do EVERYTHING
possible to avoid additional screening. My crew just won't make it.

On a similar note I'm shocked people are getting juice through. Several
times I have had to through out the small bottles of water I had to make
bottles with. I could take milk though but I don't want to worry about
keeping it cold so I buy $4 bottles of water at the airport along with juice
for the older son.

Jennie

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Jensen
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:16 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

I used to put EVERYTHING in my backpack, including my disconnected pump.
When I eventually realized/was told that my pump would not set the detector
off, I started leaving it on. That was all before CGMS. Since CGMS
(Navigator), I have put the receiver in my backpack but have kept the sensor
and transmitter on.

I have never had a problem with the items on my person. My bag has been
checked a few times, but they're usually checking the conglomeration of
electronics, including my cell phone and MP3 player. And it's still not a
big deal.

To me this is infinitely more convenient than getting patted down. I know
in the past that some people have expressed concern about damage to their
receiver/pump, but when inside of my backpack, I fail to see any substantial
risk.

Actually, my bottom line is that it's sort of a variation on "better to ask
forgiveness than permission."

Adam

1b.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Msdosse@aol.com" Msdosse@aol.com   msdosse

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:11 pm (PST)





In a message dated 1/8/2010 7:01:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jennifer@jharris.net writes:

On a similar note I'm shocked people are getting juice through.

At the Reno airport, security would not allow an unopened bottle of water
through but told me juice is acceptable as it is considered a "medicine" for
diabetics (hypoglycemic). YMMV

Judy


1c.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author" jeff@incredibleassemblies.com   chucklejeff

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:14 pm (PST)



My paradigm pump does not set off the metal detector, however it can be
worrisome to a TSA worker in a pat-down. I DID go through that and now, I
get to my gate faster by disconnecting the pump and throwing it in the bin
with my tester, laptop, etc. vs. getting pulled aside and questioned about
it.

It's a pretty easy thing to disconnect it before getting in line, although
as Mr. ADHD, I usually forget and just pop it off while in line. I guess
that might be more difficult when wearing it below the waist, but I haven't
run into that yet.

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From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jath622@wowway.com
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:47 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

My Cozmo has never set off the alarms but this year with the Navigator it
did go off. Next time I'll put the Nav receiver in my backpack.

Judi in MI

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

_____

From: Adam Jensen <adam.jensen@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:20:18 -0500

To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

As may be gleaned from my e-mail which was sent at a similar time to yours,
mine does not, and it is a Cozmo.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't
set off the metal detector?

1d.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "mommabagel@aol.com" mommabagel@aol.com   mommabagel

Fri Jan 8, 2010 8:33 pm (PST)



last summer, Jesse had an unopened bottle of water in his pack that he
forgot was there. The Orlando TSA agent had Jesse open it... then held
something over it to test it??.. then returned it.. This was in addition to 4
juice boxes that I had in a ziploc bag- which they swabbed.... Now- I read
that NO liquids are being allowed...
Stacey



In a message dated 1/8/10 10:11:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Msdosse@aol.com writes:

In a message dated 1/8/2010 7:01:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jennifer@jharris.In a messag

On a similar note I'm shocked people are getting juice through.

At the Reno airport, security would not allow an unopened bottle of water
through but told me juice is acceptable as it is considered a "medicine" for
diabetics (hypoglycemic)At the

Judy



2.1.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Elizabeth Blake" poodlebone@yahoo.com   poodlebone

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:05 pm (PST)



I have also disconnected and fake-bolused through the pump but taken the insulin via syringe because I wanted my IOB to be correct. I have only done that once, I think, when I wasn't really sure if a set was working or not. I was almost certain it was but used the syringe just in case. I rarely ever have set failures now and with a CGMS I catch my BG before it gets too high. The only time I run into trouble is if I've had a really big dinner (restaurant meal, holiday or just being greedy) and it takes forever to digest. I'll go to bed with an okay BG but while I'm asleep it goes way up.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2.2.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Elizabeth Blake" poodlebone@yahoo.com   poodlebone

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:20 pm (PST)



>From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com>
>
>Interesting. Well, I just whipped thru the online manual for Animas to see what if anything it had, but didn't see a SLOW or FAST delivery. Guess, I'll have to go back and look closer at it. I have a friend who just got the PING and maybe I'll ask her about it to see if her PING does a fast or slow delivery. But, I could see that as a nice feature for some. Thanks Diana for letting me know.
>
>
>Todd

Todd,

I found the options in the online Ping manual. It says that normal delivery is 1u per second and slow delivery is 1 unit every 4 seconds. Now I see why some people say that the bolus stings even at the slower rate. With my Minimed I have stopped a bolus a number of times for various reasons. Maybe I entered the carbs wrong (too many) or realized I was going to have to delay eating for a bit. With the slow delivery I'm able to stop it before too much is delivered.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2.3.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Richard Price" captdr@sbcglobal.net   type1too

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:29 pm (PST)



That is a good idea!
On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Signe Myhren wrote:

> If I need to do that, because of an unexplained high, I have my own system:
>
> (1) disconnect from pump; tell pump wizard what my BG is and see what the recommended correction bolus is - and then watch it drip onto the floor
> (2) take that same amount by injection (and if you need more than the recommended amount, add that to the amount of the pump bolus, and let the extra amount, too, leak out onto the floor
>
> Why? You may ask ... because it helps ME to remember how much insulin I have actually taken!
>
>
>
>

2.4.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "mommabagel@aol.com" mommabagel@aol.com   mommabagel

Fri Jan 8, 2010 8:31 pm (PST)



Jesse's Cozmo has a bolus duration feature.. The fastest bolus is one
minute You can program the pump so that all boluses (meal, correction, and
the immediate portion of a Combination bolus) are delivered over 1 to 5
minutes. The default setting is 1 minute. Unfortunately Cozmo is currently out of
business..


Staey


In a message dated 1/8/10 9:29:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Msdosse@aol.com writes:

The specifics you list below were not part of the original question and I
have no response.

Having used both the Animas and Omnipod, I can state unequivocally the
Animas is faster than the Omnipod. For someone who NEVER goes above 10
units/bolus, the difference is minor (I do get irritated not being able to read
the status on the Omnipod until it finally finishes even a 2 unit bolus).
For HUGE amounts, I have seen recommendations to inject (by syringe,
obviously) in more than one site.

Judy


In a message dated 1/8/2010 4:29:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo.In a messag

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not
find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I
don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount
of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also
a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at
that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it
delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just
want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of
insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it

2.5.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Richard Price" captdr@sbcglobal.net   type1too

Fri Jan 8, 2010 8:46 pm (PST)



I tried what you do and found that my pump was not delivering the amount I bolused. I injected the bolus amount
using a needle onto a teaspoon and pumped the same number of units into another teaspoon and the pump just delivered about 25%
as much as the needle. So I changed sets and the delivery was better. I regularly change every 3 days but I don't think yhat answers
my problem regarding sites.
Richard
On Jan 8, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Signe Myhren wrote:

> If I need to do that, because of an unexplained high, I have my own system:
>
> (1) disconnect from pump; tell pump wizard what my BG is and see what the recommended correction bolus is - and then watch it drip onto the floor
> (2) take that same amount by injection (and if you need more than the recommended amount, add that to the amount of the pump bolus, and let the extra amount, too, leak out onto the floor
>
> Why? You may ask ... because it helps ME to remember how much insulin I have actually taken!
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>

2.6.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "mommabagel@aol.com" mommabagel@aol.com   mommabagel

Fri Jan 8, 2010 9:03 pm (PST)



are you sure it's 1U every second?? and not .1 U per second. That just
doesn't sound right..
Stacey


Todd,

I found the options in the online Ping manual. It says that normal
delivery is 1u per second and slow delivery is 1 unit every 4 seconds. Now I see
why some people say that the bolus stings even at the slower rate. With my
Minimed I have stopped a bolus a number of times for various reasons. Maybe
I entered the carbs wrong (too many) or realized I was going to have to
delay eating for a bit. With the slow delivery I'm able to stop it before too
much is delivered.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2.7.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "dmslof@yahoo.com" dmslof@yahoo.com   dmslof

Fri Jan 8, 2010 9:16 pm (PST)



Well, the slow is definitely one unit of insulin per time period - which I have counted at 5-6 seconds (every 4 seconds according to the manual - I must count fast). So fast delivery has got to be faster than that! I remember it being very, very fast when we first started pumping, and my son did not like it at all (and back then 3 units was a huge dose).
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: mommabagel@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:03:42
To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

are you sure it's 1U every second?? and not .1 U per second. That just
doesn't sound right..
Stacey


Todd,

I found the options in the online Ping manual. It says that normal
delivery is 1u per second and slow delivery is 1 unit every 4 seconds. Now I see
why some people say that the bolus stings even at the slower rate. With my
Minimed I have stopped a bolus a number of times for various reasons. Maybe
I entered the carbs wrong (too many) or realized I was going to have to
delay eating for a bit. With the slow delivery I'm able to stop it before too
much is delivered.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS



2.8.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "tm_pearson@yahoo.com" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 9:36 pm (PST)



sorry you are right unjust left out the dot (.) when I was typing. My bad.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: mommabagel@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 00:03:42
To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

are you sure it's 1U every second?? and not .1 U per second. That just
doesn't sound right..
Stacey


Todd,

I found the options in the online Ping manual. It says that normal
delivery is 1u per second and slow delivery is 1 unit every 4 seconds. Now I see
why some people say that the bolus stings even at the slower rate. With my
Minimed I have stopped a bolus a number of times for various reasons. Maybe
I entered the carbs wrong (too many) or realized I was going to have to
delay eating for a bit. With the slow delivery I'm able to stop it before too
much is delivered.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

3.

Flying with pump ....

Posted by: "Signe Myhren" jechante17@yahoo.com   jechante17

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:21 pm (PST)



Because I choose to wear my MM 522 with Real-Time CGMS on a pump clip
(leather case with clip) on my waist, I always trigger the alarm. It's
the metal clip on the case that does it. If I put the pump in my
pocket, I fear for its safety. It also can't easily communicate with my
transmitter, which is on my upper buttock. I carry a prescription from
my endo. When I flew to NJ from Denver on Sunday, I got a very thorough
check, but they couldn't have been kinder. Afterwards, they thanked me
for having been so cooperative. I told them that, many years earlier, I
had arrived with my college choir in the Bucharest, Romania airport (back when it was a Communist State.) We each entered security (which looked like a voting booth) separately. We saw our friends enter; we had no idea where they had exited to. When I entered the booth, I set off the metal detector. Security agents and policemen came and put their hands all over me. I started to
panic, then realized what had set off the metal detector was the Medic Alert necklace
around my neck. I pulled it out from under my shirt, and that was that.
They let go of me, and it was smooth sailing from then on it. Denver's
TSA folks were amused!

4.

Windows 7

Posted by: "Lisa Loftis" nmlisa@gmail.com   l1sajo

Fri Jan 8, 2010 7:26 pm (PST)



Hi,

Has anyone had experience trying to download software or upload data from
pumps and/or CGMS while using Windows 7? So far, I haven't had problems
trying to download software, but when I try to use it, it seems glitchy and
won't let me fill in personal data that it should let me enter. Right now,
I'm trying to work with software for my new OmniPod and my new DexCom Seven
Plus, but I had similar problems when I tried to upload my MM data last week
through the CareLink USB and ended up having to use my old computer to
upload the data.

Is anyone else having similar problems with Windows 7 and our usual
softwares?

Thanks,
nmLisa
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