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Friday, January 8, 2010

[diabetescgms] Digest Number 1777

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: going thru airport From: Todd Pearson
1b.
Re: -SPAM- (5.4) Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport From: Jennifer McMonagle-Harris
1c.
Re: going thru airport From: ted@lauramarshallphoto.com
1d.
Re: going thru airport From: ManonK
1e.
Re: going thru airport From: Adam Jensen
1f.
Re: going thru airport From: Todd Pearson
1g.
Re: going thru airport From: Adam Jensen
1h.
Re: going thru airport From: Jan Chait
1i.
Re: going thru airport From: Bob Kallish
1j.
Re: going thru airport From: jath622@wowway.com
2a.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2b.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Ron Ziegler
2c.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Msdosse@aol.com
2d.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2e.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Msdosse@aol.com
2f.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Elizabeth Blake
2g.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2h.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2i.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Signe Myhren
2j.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2k.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Andy Mayshar
2l.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: dmslof@yahoo.com
2m.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
2n.
Re: -SPAM- (5.1) Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Jennifer McMonagle-Harris
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Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Msdosse@aol.com

Messages

1a.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 2:22 pm (PST)



I have a MM722 pump with CGMS. I go right thru the metal detector with it. I also have the Dexcom and I just put my receiver in the tray to be scanned in the x-ray machine. Don't know about the NAV, but I would suspect that you should just put it in the tray to be scanned via x-ray. So, if you know that it sets off the detector, just put it in the tray and let them scan it, you'll make it thru the checkpoint much faster and less hassles.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

________________________________
From: Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:13:38 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport


Which type of CGMS do you have? I am on the
Navigator and I keep the receiver in my pocket when I go thru the screener and I
set the alarm off. Why am I setting it off and not you? Thanks,
Linda
----- Original Message -----
>From: Todd
> Pearson
>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:23
> PM
>Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru
> airport
>
>
>NOPE...not a peep! WHY....so I can get myself extra screened and/or take
> forever to go thru screening?? I travel to much to go thru this 2-3 times a
> month. Basically, if a TSA agent says something, you just have to say I had no
> idea. I'm just going thru screening just like everyone else. 1 time I got
> stopped not long ago in New Orleans and was running late for my flight and I
> even told the TSA agent that is my name they are calling. Well the X-Ray
> screener didn't like what he saw in my diabetic bag. So, they went thru my bag
> and I told the agent that I'm diabetic on a pump as I'm frantically trying to
> get all my stuff and get my shoes on. Thankfully, by the time he got done
> checking my bag, I was putting on my last shoe and raced out of
> there!
>
>So, other then that and my experience in Montana, which I hate
> to travel there because of the TSA agents have SO MUCH time on there hands to
> check EVERYTHING and I mean they do check everything! But, the busy
> airports.... never ever a problem. It does take me a bit since I have a
> LOT of gear to go thru the screeening, but I always get thru. Now, if I ever
> traveled out of the US and came back on a flight.....that may be a totally
> different story and I'm not sure if I want to see what that would be
> like.
>
>
>Todd
>dx 12/1986
>MM722 + CGMS
>Dexcom 7+
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Bob Kallish
> <lkbk14@comcast. net>
>To: > diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 1:10:34
> PM
>Subject: Re:
> [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>
>
>Are you saying you don't say anything and
> you do not have to be hand wanded just go thru the metal detector? When
> you put the rest of your stuff in the bins they
> never ask you anything? Thanks Linda
>-----
>> Original Message -----
>>From: tm_pearson@yahoo. com
>>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups.
>> com
>>Sent: >> Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM
>>Subject: >> Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>>
>>
>>Linda I travel a lot and have never ever had a problem except for the
>> Small airports like in Montana. They don't get busy at all and TSA has
>> plenty of time to screen you on their hands. One time an agent there have me
>> a lecture that I needed to claim my medication when coming thru security,
>> but have always just went right on thru with all my diabetes stuff and a
>> bunch of electronics in my laptop bag. Never ever had an issue and I will
>> never ever stop and say HEY TSA I need to show you ALL my stuff I have on
>> me. So I can spend more time with you.....NOT! I'm going thru, I'm a
>> frequent traveler and just wantnyo relax. So I did fly a couple of days
>> after x-mas and didn't see or have any issues with security OR on the plane.
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>Todd
>>Dx 12/1986
>>MM 722 + CGMS
>>Dexcom 7+
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
>>
>>From: "Bob Kallish" <lkbk14@comcast. net>
>>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:04:36 -0500
>>To: diabetes cgms<diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>
>>Subject: [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>>
>>
>>Has anyone had any trouble getting
>> their insulin and cgms supplies thru security since xmas? I recently had to
>> go thru a private room pat down because the agent had never heard of CGMS.
>> It worked out fine but took al long time. But that was before xmas. Thanks,
>> Linda
1b.

Re: -SPAM- (5.4) Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

Posted by: "Jennifer McMonagle-Harris" jennifer@jharris.net   turtle4461

Fri Jan 8, 2010 2:27 pm (PST)



I agree if I had a separate CGM I'd put it through the scanner. If it was a problem and set off the machine I'd take my pump off, but it doesn't so I don't worry about that. However, if they go to the body scan I'll start!!

Jennie

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Pearson
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:22 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: -SPAM- (5.4) Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

I have a MM722 pump with CGMS. I go right thru the metal detector with it. I also have the Dexcom and I just put my receiver in the tray to be scanned in the x-ray machine. Don't know about the NAV, but I would suspect that you should just put it in the tray to be scanned via x-ray. So, if you know that it sets off the detector, just put it in the tray and let them scan it, you'll make it thru the checkpoint much faster and less hassles.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

_____

From: Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:13:38 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport



Which type of CGMS do you have? I am on the Navigator and I keep the receiver in my pocket when I go thru the screener and I set the alarm off. Why am I setting it off and not you? Thanks, Linda

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Pearson <mailto:tm_pearson@yahoo.com>

To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:23 PM

Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

NOPE...not a peep! WHY....so I can get myself extra screened and/or take forever to go thru screening?? I travel to much to go thru this 2-3 times a month. Basically, if a TSA agent says something, you just have to say I had no idea. I'm just going thru screening just like everyone else. 1 time I got stopped not long ago in New Orleans and was running late for my flight and I even told the TSA agent that is my name they are calling. Well the X-Ray screener didn't like what he saw in my diabetic bag. So, they went thru my bag and I told the agent that I'm diabetic on a pump as I'm frantically trying to get all my stuff and get my shoes on. Thankfully, by the time he got done checking my bag, I was putting on my last shoe and raced out of there!

So, other then that and my experience in Montana, which I hate to travel there because of the TSA agents have SO MUCH time on there hands to check EVERYTHING and I mean they do check everything! But, the busy airports.... never ever a problem. It does take me a bit since I have a LOT of gear to go thru the screeening, but I always get thru. Now, if I ever traveled out of the US and came back on a flight.....that may be a totally different story and I'm not sure if I want to see what that would be like.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

_____

From: Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast. net>
To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 1:10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

Are you saying you don't say anything and you do not have to be hand wanded just go thru the metal detector? When you put the rest of your stuff in the bins they never ask you anything? Thanks Linda

----- Original Message -----

From: tm_pearson@yahoo. com <mailto:tm_pearson@yahoo.com>

To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM

Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

Linda I travel a lot and have never ever had a problem except for the Small airports like in Montana. They don't get busy at all and TSA has plenty of time to screen you on their hands. One time an agent there have me a lecture that I needed to claim my medication when coming thru security, but have always just went right on thru with all my diabetes stuff and a bunch of electronics in my laptop bag. Never ever had an issue and I will never ever stop and say HEY TSA I need to show you ALL my stuff I have on me. So I can spend more time with you.....NOT! I'm going thru, I'm a frequent traveler and just wantnyo relax. So I did fly a couple of days after x-mas and didn't see or have any issues with security OR on the plane. Hope that helps.

Todd
Dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

_____

From: "Bob Kallish" <lkbk14@comcast. net>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:04:36 -0500

To: diabetes cgms<diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>

Subject: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

Has anyone had any trouble getting their insulin and cgms supplies thru security since xmas? I recently had to go thru a private room pat down because the agent had never heard of CGMS. It worked out fine but took al long time. But that was before xmas. Thanks, Linda

1c.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "ted@lauramarshallphoto.com" ted@lauramarshallphoto.com   ted_a_marshall

Fri Jan 8, 2010 2:39 pm (PST)



I don't travel as much as Todd but I always keep as little metal as
possible on me when I go through the metal detector, basically only my pump
and Navigator transmitter/sensor. Everything else, including my Navigator
receiver, belt, Medical ID, belt, even the holster for my pump, goes
through the X-ray.

I don't declare my insulin or any of my other diabetic supplies. My
insulin is in the quart zip-lock with the rest of my liquids.

I don't take water or juice through.

I have been wanded a couple of times and I suspect once was due to the TSA
screener noticing me slip my pump into my pocket before going through the
metal detector. Now, I always do this well before I get into sight of the
screeners.

/Ted

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Todd Pearson tm_pearson@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:22:25 -0800 (PST)
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport

I have a MM722 pump with CGMS. I go right thru the metal detector with it.
I also have the Dexcom and I just put my receiver in the tray to be scanned
in the x-ray machine. Don't know about the NAV, but I would suspect that
you should just put it in the tray to be scanned via x-ray. So, if you know
that it sets off the detector, just put it in the tray and let them scan
it, you'll make it thru the checkpoint much faster and less hassles.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

________________________________
From: Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:13:38 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport


Which type of CGMS do you have? I am on the
Navigator and I keep the receiver in my pocket when I go thru the screener
and I
set the alarm off. Why am I setting it off and not you? Thanks,
Linda
----- Original Message -----
>From: Todd
> Pearson
>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:23
> PM
>Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] going thru
> airport
>
>
>NOPE...not a peep! WHY....so I can get myself extra screened and/or take
> forever to go thru screening?? I travel to much to go thru this 2-3
times a
> month. Basically, if a TSA agent says something, you just have to say I
had no
> idea. I'm just going thru screening just like everyone else. 1 time I
got
> stopped not long ago in New Orleans and was running late for my flight
and I
> even told the TSA agent that is my name they are calling. Well the X-Ray
> screener didn't like what he saw in my diabetic bag. So, they went thru
my bag
> and I told the agent that I'm diabetic on a pump as I'm frantically
trying to
> get all my stuff and get my shoes on. Thankfully, by the time he got
done
> checking my bag, I was putting on my last shoe and raced out of
> there!
>
>So, other then that and my experience in Montana, which I hate
> to travel there because of the TSA agents have SO MUCH time on there
hands to
> check EVERYTHING and I mean they do check everything! But, the busy
> airports.... never ever a problem. It does take me a bit since I have a
> LOT of gear to go thru the screeening, but I always get thru. Now, if I
ever
> traveled out of the US and came back on a flight.....that may be a
totally
> different story and I'm not sure if I want to see what that would be
> like.
>
>
>Todd
>dx 12/1986
>MM722 + CGMS
>Dexcom 7+
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Bob Kallish
> <lkbk14@comcast. net>
>To: > diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 1:10:34
> PM
>Subject: Re:
> [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>
>
>Are you saying you don't say anything and
> you do not have to be hand wanded just go thru the metal detector? When
> you put the rest of your stuff in the bins they
> never ask you anything? Thanks Linda
>-----
>> Original Message -----
>>From: tm_pearson@yahoo. com
>>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups.
>> com
>>Sent: >> Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM
>>Subject: >> Re: [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>>
>>
>>Linda I travel a lot and have never ever had a problem except for the
>> Small airports like in Montana. They don't get busy at all and TSA
has
>> plenty of time to screen you on their hands. One time an agent there
have me
>> a lecture that I needed to claim my medication when coming thru
security,
>> but have always just went right on thru with all my diabetes stuff
and a
>> bunch of electronics in my laptop bag. Never ever had an issue and I
will
>> never ever stop and say HEY TSA I need to show you ALL my stuff I
have on
>> me. So I can spend more time with you.....NOT! I'm going thru, I'm a
>> frequent traveler and just wantnyo relax. So I did fly a couple of
days
>> after x-mas and didn't see or have any issues with security OR on the
plane.
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>Todd
>>Dx 12/1986
>>MM 722 + CGMS
>>Dexcom 7+
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
>>
>>From: "Bob Kallish" <lkbk14@comcast. net>
>>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:04:36 -0500
>>To: diabetes cgms<diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>
>>Subject: [diabetescgms] going thru airport
>>
>>
>>Has anyone had any trouble getting
>> their insulin and cgms supplies thru security since xmas? I recently
had to
>> go thru a private room pat down because the agent had never heard of
CGMS.
>> It worked out fine but took al long time. But that was before xmas.
Thanks,
>> Linda


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Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "ManonK" manon@vanpuffelen.net   manon_knier

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:01 pm (PST)



When I went to Las Vegas from San Francisco on Dec. 26th I wore my insulin pump (Accu-Chek) and my MM Guardian CGMS. I told the security I was wearing the devices so I had to step aside for the pat-down. It was fairly quickly. All my supplies were in my carry-on, no problem with the scan.

When I returned from Las Vegas it was another story. I only wore my pump this time and I didn't mention it when I went through. The alarm went off so I told about the pump. Pat-down time again. My hand bagage didn't with the Guardian in it, didn't trigger an alarm. It took a while to get a security lady down, and she did a thorough check. She even checked the top of my jeans to feel if I smuggle something in the seems and then she saw the infusion site. 'What's that?' So I explained and showed the attached insulin pump. I guess she didn't trust the fluid inside 'the thing' because she swiped my hands for explosives <LOL>. Well, I'd rather have her check everybody like this and find a bad guy than board with one...

Manon
Type 1 diabetes since 1994
Pump since 1998, CGMS since August 2009
About to receive a new -pink- Paradigm 722 next week to replace my Accu-Chek and Guardian combo. And having a hypo right now, so So long!

--- In diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Kallish" <lkbk14@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had any trouble getting their insulin and cgms supplies thru security since xmas? I recently had to go thru a private room pat down because the agent had never heard of CGMS. It worked out fine but took al long time. But that was before xmas. Thanks, Linda
>

1e.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Adam Jensen" adam.jensen@gmail.com   adamixoye

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:16 pm (PST)



I used to put EVERYTHING in my backpack, including my disconnected pump.
When I eventually realized/was told that my pump would not set the detector
off, I started leaving it on. That was all before CGMS. Since CGMS
(Navigator), I have put the receiver in my backpack but have kept the sensor
and transmitter on.

I have never had a problem with the items on my person. My bag has been
checked a few times, but they're usually checking the conglomeration of
electronics, including my cell phone and MP3 player. And it's still not a
big deal.

To me this is infinitely more convenient than getting patted down. I know
in the past that some people have expressed concern about damage to their
receiver/pump, but when inside of my backpack, I fail to see any substantial
risk.

Actually, my bottom line is that it's sort of a variation on "better to ask
forgiveness than permission."

Adam
1f.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:16 pm (PST)



Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't set off the metal detector?

Guess since I fly so much that I'm just used to the routine and how the flow of things go at the airport. Please also realize that I'm also in Emergency Services as well, so all I see is myself as an average person just wanting to get from Point A to Point B in the least amount of time and trouble. It's not that I'm trying to circumvent any of the rules, but just that I want to be NORMAL going thru the screening process.

Of course we don't want the bad guys getting any ideas, but trust me...if they want to get something thru security bad enough they will find a way. One of the reasons why do you think they try to get stuff pass TSA at the BUSY airports?? Let them try it in a non busy airport and see how far they get.....trust me those guys screen everything at the small airports.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

________________________________
From: ManonK <manon@vanpuffelen.net>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 3:01:37 PM
Subject: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

When I went to Las Vegas from San Francisco on Dec. 26th I wore my insulin pump (Accu-Chek) and my MM Guardian CGMS. I told the security I was wearing the devices so I had to step aside for the pat-down. It was fairly quickly. All my supplies were in my carry-on, no problem with the scan.

When I returned from Las Vegas it was another story. I only wore my pump this time and I didn't mention it when I went through. The alarm went off so I told about the pump. Pat-down time again. My hand bagage didn't with the Guardian in it, didn't trigger an alarm. It took a while to get a security lady down, and she did a thorough check. She even checked the top of my jeans to feel if I smuggle something in the seems and then she saw the infusion site. 'What's that?' So I explained and showed the attached insulin pump. I guess she didn't trust the fluid inside 'the thing' because she swiped my hands for explosives <LOL>. Well, I'd rather have her check everybody like this and find a bad guy than board with one...

Manon
Type 1 diabetes since 1994
Pump since 1998, CGMS since August 2009
About to receive a new -pink- Paradigm 722 next week to replace my Accu-Chek and Guardian combo. And having a hypo right now, so So long!

--- In diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com, "Bob Kallish" <lkbk14@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had any trouble getting their insulin and cgms supplies thru security since xmas? I recently had to go thru a private room pat down because the agent had never heard of CGMS. It worked out fine but took al long time. But that was before xmas. Thanks, Linda
>

1g.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Adam Jensen" adam.jensen@gmail.com   adamixoye

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:20 pm (PST)



As may be gleaned from my e-mail which was sent at a similar time to yours,
mine does not, and it is a Cozmo.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't
> set off the metal detector?
>
>
1h.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Jan Chait" stillLow@verizon.net   stillchef47803

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:59 pm (PST)



My MM did not, my Animas did not, and my Cozmo does not. Neither domestically nor internationally. The first time I tried both and pump and a CGM receiver (a Dexcom), the metal detector sounded, so now I just send my receiver (now a Nav) through x-ray. Of course, it depends on how sensitive the metal detector is set. Back in the day, when I was a newspaper reporter, some teeny-tiny little buckles on my high-heeled sandals set off the metal detector at the federal prison where I live. It was the only metal I had on me, so that was pretty sensitive!

I don't have any problems with diabetes supplies when flying, either: I put those - pump supplies, strips, etc. - in one baggie and my meds, including insulin, in another. I put the plastic baggies in one of their containers, too. I've never been questioned. I do get wanded now, but it's because I'm now using a mobiity scooter.

JanC

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't set off the metal detector?

1i.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Bob Kallish" lkbk14@comcast.net   seanjackryan

Fri Jan 8, 2010 5:28 pm (PST)



I think I was told by the Abbott tech not to put the receiver thru the scanner it could get damaged. I think her exact words were tell them you wanted to be hand wanded. I started doing that about 9 months ago but they still made me walk thru the metal detector anyway. Does anyone else remember being given that same info by Abbott? Thanks, Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Jensen
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

As may be gleaned from my e-mail which was sent at a similar time to yours, mine does not, and it is a Cozmo.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't set off the metal detector?

1j.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "jath622@wowway.com" jath622@wowway.com   jath6221

Fri Jan 8, 2010 6:46 pm (PST)



My Cozmo has never set off the alarms but this year with the Navigator it did go off. Next time I'll put the Nav receiver in my backpack.

Judi in MI
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Jensen <adam.jensen@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:20:18
To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

As may be gleaned from my e-mail which was sent at a similar time to yours,
mine does not, and it is a Cozmo.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't
> set off the metal detector?
>
>

2a.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 2:32 pm (PST)



Okay, I'm getting the picture here now. So, let me clarify.....Once you rewind the MM Pump and Prime the tubing, you could technically leave it in that STATE.....but, then you would not be getting your basel rate, because the pump is still in the Prime Mode. Now once you enter in your Fixed Prime, then you would no longer be able to just PRIME the pump till you REWIND again. So, NO it's not possible to do what he is wanting with a FASTER delivery of insulin via a pump.

The other reason why you probably will not now or ever find a pump that will do this IS BECAUSE if you have a sight where you've inserted your cannula in to and you have scar tissue there lets say, have you ever had your pump say No Delivery? It's because it's getting pressure feed back into the tubing because of the scar tissue, so if you did a FAST Injection, that's MORE pressure being push back into the tubing and again would give you a No Delivery plus cause other issues with you or your pump. So, I believe the slow delivery is more of a safety feature as well. Hopefully, you understood what I was explaining here.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
Dexcom 7+

________________________________
From: Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 2:20:43 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

----- Original Message ----

> From: Andy Mayshar <andyma@charter. net>

> I'm not sure why you would want to do this, but I think the MM's will. Just use
> Fixed Prime mode.(one of the reasons I didn't like the MM Paradigm series) I
> though it's priming was a kludge. There are a couple of places where if you
> don't follow though during priming the pump will never deliver any insulin and
> never give you any kind of indication (never could be years) I brought this to
> the attention of MM tech support people and they confirmed and agreed with me
> that it was a serious problem. The MM product manager also agreed and was
> setting up a meeting with MM engineering to disucss. Then the MM management and
> legal beavers got involved and the whole investigation got squashed. I think we
> all know the situations MM has gotten into oner there problems with "priming"
>

A Fixed Prime on the Minimed pump is not very fast. I think it's the same rate as the bolus delivery. The Manual Prime is much faster but I would never recommend anyone using that to bolus insulin. First of all, you can't choose a specific dose. The Manual Prime is meant to fill the tubing while disconnected and even if you're watching the screen, there's no telling how much over or under your desired amount would be delivered since it moves pretty fast.

I have never not completed a prime when changing my set or reservoir. A few times I've forgotten to do the Fixed Prime and wondered why my BG was running higher than usual, but I have always gotten out of the Manual Prime and the pump resumed normal operations. I can see it happening if you don't pay attention but it has never been a problem for me.

I've read complaints from some Animas pumpers that the bolus delivery was too fast and could sting. They might have the quickest bolus delivery. I'm used to Minimed's slow delivery and it's not an issue for me.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2b.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Ron Ziegler" ronnielee2u@yahoo.com   ronnielee2u

Fri Jan 8, 2010 2:39 pm (PST)



 
>
> Is there a pump that will inject Bolus firmly like shots rather than by small droplets?
> , Richard
 
I'm not sure why you would want to do this, but I think the MM's will. Just use Fixed Prime mode.(one of the reasons I didn't like the MM Paradigm series) I though it's priming was a kludge. There are a couple of places where if you don't follow though during priming the pump will never deliver any insulin and never give you any kind of indication (never could be years) I brought this to the attention of MM tech support people and they confirmed and agreed with me that it was a serious problem. The MM product manager also agreed and was setting up a meeting with MM engineering to disucss. Then the MM management and legal beavers got involved and the whole investigation got squashed. I think we all know the situations MM has gotten into oner there problems with "priming"

Don't you think it will get absorbed better with slow injection?
Andy
 
 
I certainly don't need a "fixed prime"  to give a bolus, and doubt any other MM user does this either.  Where did this procedure come from?  This in itself is a kludge.
 
Ron
MM722+CGMS Type 1 27 years
.
 

2c.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Msdosse@aol.com" Msdosse@aol.com   msdosse

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:45 pm (PST)



Animas does.

Judy


In a message dated 1/8/2010 1:30:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
captdr@sbcglobal.net writes:

Is there a pump that will inject Bolus firmly like shots rather than by
small droplets?
, Richard

2d.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:55 pm (PST)



Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#?

Todd

________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol.com" <Msdosse@aol.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 3:45:49 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Animas does.

Judy

In a message dated 1/8/2010 1:30:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
captdr@sbcglobal. net writes:
Is
> there a pump that will inject Bolus firmly like shots rather than by small
> droplets?
>, Richard
2e.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Msdosse@aol.com" Msdosse@aol.com   msdosse

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:01 pm (PST)





In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo.com writes:

Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#? IR 1200

2f.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Elizabeth Blake" poodlebone@yahoo.com   poodlebone

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:04 pm (PST)




>From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com>
>
>Okay, I'm getting the picture here now. So, let me clarify.....Once you rewind the MM Pump and Prime the tubing, you could technically leave it in that STATE.....but, then you would not be getting your basel rate, because the pump is still in the Prime Mode. Now once you enter in your Fixed Prime, then you would no longer be able to just PRIME the pump till you REWIND again. So, NO it's not possible to do what he is wanting with a FASTER delivery of insulin via a pump.
>

Exactly. In order to do a Manual Prime (the really fast one), you have to Rewind the pump first. Once you Rewind the pump it suspends all basal delivery. The next step is the Manual Prime to quickly fill the tubing. You hold down the ACT button to do this. You can remove you finger from the button at any time during the prime and then press ACT again to continue. The pump stays in the Manual Prime mode until you press the ESC button. It then resumes normal mode. You can do the Fixed Prime if needed (Sure-T sets, for example, do not need a fixed prime). The Fixed Prime is slow, like a bolus, so does not save any time doing that over a bolus. The prime would also not be counted in your daily total and would not be taken into consideration in your IOB.

Just because you pump doesn't mean you can't also use a syringe. If someone really wants a fast bolus, use a syringe or pen. The pump will still take care of your basal.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2g.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:11 pm (PST)



EXACTLY...what I was thinking Liz and I usually do just that, either whip out my Pen or a Syringe with my insulin and inject. I usually do this when I am WAY HIGH and want to get my BG down fast. Why wait for the pump to deliver me 10.0u when I can do that quicker manually with a pen/syringe.....plus if your BG is high you can't count on your pump not being to blame for the HIGH BG, so take a manual shot anyways.

Todd

________________________________
From: Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:03:20 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

>From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
>
>Okay, I'm getting the picture here now. So, let me clarify..... Once you rewind the MM Pump and Prime the tubing, you could technically leave it in that STATE.....but, then you would not be getting your basel rate, because the pump is still in the Prime Mode. Now once you enter in your Fixed Prime, then you would no longer be able to just PRIME the pump till you REWIND again. So, NO it's not possible to do what he is wanting with a FASTER delivery of insulin via a pump.
>

Exactly. In order to do a Manual Prime (the really fast one), you have to Rewind the pump first. Once you Rewind the pump it suspends all basal delivery. The next step is the Manual Prime to quickly fill the tubing. You hold down the ACT button to do this. You can remove you finger from the button at any time during the prime and then press ACT again to continue. The pump stays in the Manual Prime mode until you press the ESC button. It then resumes normal mode. You can do the Fixed Prime if needed (Sure-T sets, for example, do not need a fixed prime). The Fixed Prime is slow, like a bolus, so does not save any time doing that over a bolus. The prime would also not be counted in your daily total and would not be taken into consideration in your IOB.

Just because you pump doesn't mean you can't also use a syringe. If someone really wants a fast bolus, use a syringe or pen. The pump will still take care of your basal.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

2h.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:28 pm (PST)



So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.

Todd

________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol.com" <Msdosse@aol.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:
Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#?
> IR 1200
2i.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Signe Myhren" jechante17@yahoo.com   jechante17

Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:51 pm (PST)



If I need to do that, because of an unexplained high, I have my own system:
 
(1) disconnect from pump; tell pump wizard what my BG is and see what the recommended correction bolus is - and then watch it drip onto the floor
(2) take that same amount by injection (and if you need more than the recommended amount, add that to the amount of the pump bolus, and let the extra amount, too, leak out onto the floor
 
Why? You may ask ... because it helps ME to remember how much insulin I have actually taken!
 

--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 7:11 PM

 

EXACTLY...what I was thinking Liz and I usually do just that, either whip out my Pen or a Syringe with my insulin and inject. I usually do this when I am WAY HIGH and want to get my BG down fast. Why wait for the pump to deliver me 10.0u when I can do that quicker manually with a pen/syringe. ....plus if your BG is high you can't count on your pump not being to blame for the HIGH BG, so take a manual shot anyways.

Todd

.

2j.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 5:03 pm (PST)



I like that thinking and yes, I also have the same problem as when you do a manual shot of insulin you now don't have IOB keeping track like the pump does, so if you do it your way then you're still able to keep track on the IOB so to speak. The bad part about it....is the nice beautiful Insulin hitting the floor.....:(

just need to think of a way to hook something up to the pump to capture that insulin back into my vial so that it doesn't go to waste. Thou, I have Insurance, it's still good money down the drain.

Todd

________________________________
From: Signe Myhren <jechante17@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:51:32 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

If I need to do that, because of an unexplained high, I have my own system:

(1) disconnect from pump; tell pump wizard what my BG is and see what the recommended correction bolus is - and then watch it drip onto the floor
(2) take that same amount by injection (and if you need more than the recommended amount, add that to the amount of the pump bolus, and let the extra amount, too, leak out onto the floor

Why? You may ask ... because it helps ME to remember how much insulin I have actually taken!


--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com> wrote:

>From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?
>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 7:11 PM
>
>
>
>EXACTLY...what I was thinking Liz and I usually do just that, either whip out my Pen or a Syringe with my insulin and inject. I usually do this when I am WAY HIGH and want to get my BG down fast. Why wait for the pump to deliver me 10.0u when I can do that quicker manually with a pen/syringe. ....plus if your BG is high you can't count on your pump not being to blame for the HIGH BG, so take a manual shot anyways.
>
>
>Todd
>
>
>
>
________________________________
.
>

2k.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Andy Mayshar" andyma@charter.net   necountryboy55

Fri Jan 8, 2010 5:03 pm (PST)



BTW

This is exactly what I do. I was just being factious about using the MM fixed prime function although the rest of what I said regarding it hanging is very true. When I need to bring down a high 300 or 400 I let the Omnipod calculate what it would deliver and then usually up that by about 60% and syringe inject.For me at least it takes muich more insulin to bring down a serious high particularly if keytones have begun to set in. I like to use the syringe, not because the time matters much but because I like to make the pods last as long as possible.

Andu
---- Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> EXACTLY...what I was thinking Liz and I usually do just that, either whip out my Pen or a Syringe with my insulin and inject. I usually do this when I am WAY HIGH and want to get my BG down fast. Why wait for the pump to deliver me 10.0u when I can do that quicker manually with a pen/syringe.....plus if your BG is high you can't count on your pump not being to blame for the HIGH BG, so take a manual shot anyways.
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>
> To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:03:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?
>
>
>
> >From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
> >
> >Okay, I'm getting the picture here now. So, let me clarify..... Once you rewind the MM Pump and Prime the tubing, you could technically leave it in that STATE.....but, then you would not be getting your basel rate, because the pump is still in the Prime Mode. Now once you enter in your Fixed Prime, then you would no longer be able to just PRIME the pump till you REWIND again. So, NO it's not possible to do what he is wanting with a FASTER delivery of insulin via a pump.
> >
>
> Exactly. In order to do a Manual Prime (the really fast one), you have to Rewind the pump first. Once you Rewind the pump it suspends all basal delivery. The next step is the Manual Prime to quickly fill the tubing. You hold down the ACT button to do this. You can remove you finger from the button at any time during the prime and then press ACT again to continue. The pump stays in the Manual Prime mode until you press the ESC button. It then resumes normal mode. You can do the Fixed Prime if needed (Sure-T sets, for example, do not need a fixed prime). The Fixed Prime is slow, like a bolus, so does not save any time doing that over a bolus. The prime would also not be counted in your daily total and would not be taken into consideration in your IOB.
>
> Just because you pump doesn't mean you can't also use a syringe. If someone really wants a fast bolus, use a syringe or pen. The pump will still take care of your basal.
>
> --
> Liz
> Type 1 dx 4/1987
> Minimed 722 + CGMS
>
>
>

2l.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "dmslof@yahoo.com" dmslof@yahoo.com   dmslof

Fri Jan 8, 2010 5:08 pm (PST)



My son is on the Animas 2020. We have it on the "slow delivery" setting for boluses, and it delivers a unit every 6 seconds or so. So, presumably the fast setting is faster than that, but probably not as fast as you are wanting. My son says the fast delivery stings.

Keep in mind, though, that my son is 8 and a huge bolus for him is 6 units. I'm not sure if speed of delivery is the same for larger boluses.

Diana
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:28:41
To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.


Todd




________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol.com" <Msdosse@aol.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?




In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:
Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#?
> IR 1200

2m.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Fri Jan 8, 2010 5:14 pm (PST)



Interesting. Well, I just whipped thru the online manual for Animas to see what if anything it had, but didn't see a SLOW or FAST delivery. Guess, I'll have to go back and look closer at it. I have a friend who just got the PING and maybe I'll ask her about it to see if her PING does a fast or slow delivery. But, I could see that as a nice feature for some. Thanks Diana for letting me know.

Todd

________________________________
From: "dmslof@yahoo.com" <dmslof@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 5:13:04 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

My son is on the Animas 2020. We have it on the "slow delivery" setting for boluses, and it delivers a unit every 6 seconds or so. So, presumably the fast setting is faster than that, but probably not as fast as you are wanting. My son says the fast delivery stings.

Keep in mind, though, that my son is 8 and a huge bolus for him is 6 units. I'm not sure if speed of delivery is the same for larger boluses.

Diana
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
________________________________

From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:28:41 -0800 (PST)
To: <diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.

Todd

________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol. com" <Msdosse@aol. com>
To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:
Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#?
> IR 1200
2n.

Re: -SPAM- (5.1) Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Jennifer McMonagle-Harris" jennifer@jharris.net   turtle4461

Fri Jan 8, 2010 6:26 pm (PST)



The Cozmo had a setting for how fast you wanted to have boluses infused. It
was one of my first complaints was I thought it went in far to fast for my
liking compared to MM.

Jennie

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Pearson
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:15 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: -SPAM- (5.1) Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Interesting. Well, I just whipped thru the online manual for Animas to see
what if anything it had, but didn't see a SLOW or FAST delivery. Guess, I'll
have to go back and look closer at it. I have a friend who just got the PING
and maybe I'll ask her about it to see if her PING does a fast or slow
delivery. But, I could see that as a nice feature for some. Thanks Diana for
letting me know.

Todd

_____

From: "dmslof@yahoo.com" <dmslof@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 5:13:04 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

My son is on the Animas 2020. We have it on the "slow delivery" setting for
boluses, and it delivers a unit every 6 seconds or so. So, presumably the
fast setting is faster than that, but probably not as fast as you are
wanting. My son says the fast delivery stings.

Keep in mind, though, that my son is 8 and a huge bolus for him is 6 units.
I'm not sure if speed of delivery is the same for larger boluses.

Diana

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

_____

From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>

Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:28:41 -0800 (PST)

To: <diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>

Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not
find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I
don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount of
insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also a
Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at that
rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it
delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just
want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of
insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to
inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.

Todd

_____

From: "Msdosse@aol. com" <Msdosse@aol. com>
To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:

Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#? IR 1200

2o.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Msdosse@aol.com" Msdosse@aol.com   msdosse

Fri Jan 8, 2010 6:29 pm (PST)



The specifics you list below were not part of the original question and I
have no response.

Having used both the Animas and Omnipod, I can state unequivocally the
Animas is faster than the Omnipod. For someone who NEVER goes above 10
units/bolus, the difference is minor (I do get irritated not being able to read
the status on the Omnipod until it finally finishes even a 2 unit bolus).
For HUGE amounts, I have seen recommendations to inject (by syringe,
obviously) in more than one site.

Judy


In a message dated 1/8/2010 4:29:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo.com writes:

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not
find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I
don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount
of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also
a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at
that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it
delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just
want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of
insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to
inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.

Todd

____________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol. "Msdosse<Msdosse@aol.Msd>
To: diabetescgms@ diabete
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:

Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#? IR 1200

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