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Sunday, January 10, 2010

[diabetescgms] Digest Number 1779

Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)

1.1.
Re: going thru airport From: Adam Jensen
1.2.
Re: going thru airport From: John P5032
1.3.
Re: going thru airport From: aka3bears
1.4.
Re: going thru airport From: Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author
2.1.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Adam Jensen
2.2.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Ming Themerciless
2.3.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: jath622@wowway.com
2.4.
Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ? From: Todd Pearson
3a.
newbie question about the tape discussion From: pittsburrito
3b.
Re: newbie question about the tape discussion From: Ron Ziegler
3c.
Re: newbie question about the tape discussion From: Elizabeth Blake
3d.
Re: newbie question about the tape discussion From: Allison Herschede
3e.
Re: newbie question about the tape discussion From: Todd Pearson

Messages

1.1.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Adam Jensen" adam.jensen@gmail.com   adamixoye

Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:16 am (PST)



I think at this point you have a lot of anecdotal evidence from all of us
that damage is extremely unlikely, so it's a matter of who you want to
believe and what kind of risk you're willing to take. I mean, all the
Abbott reps will also tell you to change sensors every five days, but I
don't think any of us on this list---including you---do that.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> *I think I was told by the Abbott tech not to put the receiver thru the
> scanner it could get damaged. I think her exact words were tell them you
> wanted to be hand wanded. I started doing that about 9 months ago but they
> still made me walk thru the metal detector anyway. Does anyone else remember
> being given that same info by Abbott? Thanks, Linda*
>
1.2.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "John P5032" johnp5032@yahoo.com   johnp5032

Sat Jan 9, 2010 6:09 am (PST)



I was given those same instructions by the Abbott Reps that I have talked to...also by the Animas Rep about my Ping pump.  Somewhere in the instructions it is listed also.  I always wear my 'electronics' and have never been hand searched,  On the other hand...I have 2 total knee replacements and set off even an almost defective wand/detector.  In the beginning I'd joke and ask if I should drop my drawers so they could see my scars.  They'd step back and look like they didn't know what to do.  Then I'd laugh and they caught the joke that I really wouldn't.  Now they seem to recognize me here in Tampa and it's the norm to do the hand wand and not the walk through.  My wife carries the Meds.  My insulin is in a stainless steel wide mouth Thermos with real ice.  A copy of the Rx is taped to the outside.  We have never had a problem with any of our meds.  I'd hate to be the one to challenge her...she's been a Nurse/Nurse Practitioner with the VA
for over 37 years...you know how they get....hehehe.
John P

--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Bob Kallish <lkbk14@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 8:28 PM

 

I think I was told by the Abbott tech not to put the receiver thru the scanner it could get damaged. I think her exact words were tell them you wanted to be hand wanded. I started doing that about 9 months ago but they still made me walk thru the metal detector anyway. Does anyone else remember being given that same info by Abbott? Thanks, Linda

----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Jensen
To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

 

As may be gleaned from my e-mail which was sent at a similar time to yours, mine does not, and it is a Cozmo.

Adam

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com> wrote:

Wow....so I'm thinking here...is MM Paradigm pumps the ONLY pump that won't set off the metal detector?

1.3.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "aka3bears" aka3bears@yahoo.com   aka3bears

Sat Jan 9, 2010 9:01 am (PST)



I carry a copy of the TSA memo when we travel, just in case
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/special_needs_memo.pdf
we have never had problems with taking juice through, I put them into a ziploc bag and all they have asked us to do is to place it into a bin. Only once have we had my daughter's supply backpack inspected, I had to refrain from a giggle of the look of the agents face when I answered that yes, there were needles in the bag.

1.4.

Re: going thru airport

Posted by: "Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author" jeff@incredibleassemblies.com   chucklejeff

Sat Jan 9, 2010 11:10 am (PST)



Whoever aka3Bears is, THANK YOU!

I never knew we could carry juice boxes on planes. I've even had them
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sleeping. This is great news for me.

Thanks again, and please say hi to Goldilocks for me.

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From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of aka3bears
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:01 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diabetescgms] Re: going thru airport

I carry a copy of the TSA memo when we travel, just in case
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/special_needs_memo.pdf
we have never had problems with taking juice through, I put them into a
ziploc bag and all they have asked us to do is to place it into a bin. Only
once have we had my daughter's supply backpack inspected, I had to refrain
from a giggle of the look of the agents face when I answered that yes, there
were needles in the bag.

2.1.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Adam Jensen" adam.jensen@gmail.com   adamixoye

Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:23 am (PST)



I'm not understanding the point of this whole conversation as posed by the
original poster. Is there really a need to bolus *faster* than, for
example, the 1 minute total (Cozmo) or 1 unit every few seconds (which works
out to ~1 minute or less for most boluses). I just don't see why
instantaneous vs. 1 minute would make that much of a difference except for
stinging, in which case you'd want the slower one.

Adam
2.2.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Ming Themerciless" clytusimbored@yahoo.com   clytusimbored

Sat Jan 9, 2010 1:27 pm (PST)



My understanding was that you wanted the bolus to take a little longer (to avoid pooling, or so I was told). Otherwise,
the pump is perfectly capable of injecting as quickly as a needle--look at how quickly you can prime a line.

The only issue to me is whether or not the site might be bad, which is a whole different beast...

________________________________
From: Adam Jensen <adam.jensen@gmail.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 5:22:25 AM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

I'm not understanding the point of this whole conversation as posed by the original poster. Is there really a need to bolus *faster* than, for example, the 1 minute total (Cozmo) or 1 unit every few seconds (which works out to ~1 minute or less for most boluses). I just don't see why instantaneous vs. 1 minute would make that much of a difference except for stinging, in which case you'd want the slower one.

Adam

2.3.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "jath622@wowway.com" jath622@wowway.com   jath6221

Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:27 pm (PST)



There is a fast and slow delivery in the Ping. The slow to me is extremely fast, much faster than the Cozmo.

Judi in MI
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:14:34
To: <diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Interesting. Well, I just whipped thru the online manual for Animas to see what if anything it had, but didn't see a SLOW or FAST delivery. Guess, I'll have to go back and look closer at it. I have a friend who just got the PING and maybe I'll ask her about it to see if her PING does a fast or slow delivery. But, I could see that as a nice feature for some. Thanks Diana for letting me know.


Todd




________________________________
From: "dmslof@yahoo.com" <dmslof@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 5:13:04 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?


My son is on the Animas 2020. We have it on the "slow delivery" setting for boluses, and it delivers a unit every 6 seconds or so. So, presumably the fast setting is faster than that, but probably not as fast as you are wanting. My son says the fast delivery stings.

Keep in mind, though, that my son is 8 and a huge bolus for him is 6 units. I'm not sure if speed of delivery is the same for larger boluses.

Diana
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
________________________________

From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:28:41 -0800 (PST)
To: <diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

So, Judy how can your pump deliver a RAPID amount of Insulin. I could not find anything in the manual or specs that state it can do such a feature. I don't believe ANY pump on the market is capable of delivery a huge amount of insulin in a quick manner. It's not only a safety feature, but it's also a Lawsuit waiting to happen if the pump malfunctions.

I show that the IR1200 will do 0.025-25 U/hr of insulin but does so at that rate per hour. Now if you Bolus, I could not find the rate at which it delivers, but I would assume that it would be at .025 every click. So, just want to understand how your IR 1200 can possibly deliver a huge amount of insulin like a syringe in lets say 5 seconds. About the time it takes to inject the needle in you and depress the plunger on the syringe.


Todd




________________________________
From: "Msdosse@aol. com" <Msdosse@aol. com>
To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?




In a message dated 1/8/2010 3:55:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tm_pearson@yahoo. com writes:
Judy, which Animas pump are you referring too? Model#?
> IR 1200

2.4.

Re: Insulin Injections via Pump ?

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:40 am (PST)



Liz, I was able to find it and read up. I agree with you were I like the SLOW delivery from the MM pump, just in case I need to Suspend delivery of what I may have just Bolused. If I really need more then 10u of Insulin I'm going to take a manual shot anyways.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM 722 + CGMS
DEXCOM 7 Plus

________________________________
From: Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 7:20:12 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] Insulin Injections via Pump ?

>From: Todd Pearson <tm_pearson@yahoo. com>
>
>Interesting. Well, I just whipped thru the online manual for Animas to see what if anything it had, but didn't see a SLOW or FAST delivery. Guess, I'll have to go back and look closer at it. I have a friend who just got the PING and maybe I'll ask her about it to see if her PING does a fast or slow delivery. But, I could see that as a nice feature for some. Thanks Diana for letting me know.
>
>
>Todd

Todd,

I found the options in the online Ping manual. It says that normal delivery is 1u per second and slow delivery is 1 unit every 4 seconds. Now I see why some people say that the bolus stings even at the slower rate. With my Minimed I have stopped a bolus a number of times for various reasons. Maybe I entered the carbs wrong (too many) or realized I was going to have to delay eating for a bit. With the slow delivery I'm able to stop it before too much is delivered.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

3a.

newbie question about the tape discussion

Posted by: "pittsburrito" pittsburrito@gmail.com   pittsburrito

Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:24 pm (PST)



I'm not understanding where y'all are using the Flexifix/Tegaderm/UV-3000 tapes. Are you putting it over the entire sensor and transmitter, covering them completely? Or around them, where the sensor pad stops and your skin is seen? Is this extra tape used for all cgms, or just certain brands that need it more than others?
Thanks,
Elizabeth
soon to be Dexcom 7-plus user

3b.

Re: newbie question about the tape discussion

Posted by: "Ron Ziegler" ronnielee2u@yahoo.com   ronnielee2u

Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:28 pm (PST)



yes

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, pittsburrito <pittsburrito@gmail.com> wrote:

From: pittsburrito <pittsburrito@gmail.com>
Subject: [diabetescgms] newbie question about the tape discussion
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 4:24 PM

 

I'm not understanding where y'all are using the Flexifix/Tegaderm/ UV-3000 tapes. Are you putting it over the entire sensor and transmitter, covering them completely? Or around them, where the sensor pad stops and your skin is seen? Is this extra tape used for all cgms, or just certain brands that need it more than others?
Thanks,
Elizabeth
soon to be Dexcom 7-plus user

3c.

Re: newbie question about the tape discussion

Posted by: "Elizabeth Blake" poodlebone@yahoo.com   poodlebone

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:12 pm (PST)



----- Original Message ----

> From: pittsburrito <pittsburrito@gmail.com>

> I'm not understanding where y'all are using the Flexifix/Tegaderm/UV-3000
> tapes. Are you putting it over the entire sensor and transmitter, covering them
> completely? Or around them, where the sensor pad stops and your skin is seen?
> Is this extra tape used for all cgms, or just certain brands that need it more
> than others?

I think it's mainly the Minimed users who have all of the tape discussions. Because of the way their sensor & transmitter are designed, you need extra tape to keep it all together. I have never seen the Dexcom or Navigator in person but it seems like those have some kind of sturdier base that the transmitter snaps into so they don't require extra tape over it. The stuff that comes built in seems to be enough, usually.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

3d.

Re: newbie question about the tape discussion

Posted by: "Allison Herschede" herschede@gmail.com   majicmaid

Sat Jan 9, 2010 3:49 pm (PST)



I put one strip over the sensor and one strip over the transmitter with a
space where they connect so I can disconnect easily.

Allison

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: pittsburrito <pittsburrito@gmail.com <pittsburrito%40gmail.com>>
>
> > I'm not understanding where y'all are using the Flexifix/Tegaderm/UV-3000
>
> > tapes. Are you putting it over the entire sensor and transmitter,
> covering them
> > completely? Or around them, where the sensor pad stops and your skin is
> seen?
> > Is this extra tape used for all cgms, or just certain brands that need it
> more
> > than others?
>
> I think it's mainly the Minimed users who have all of the tape discussions.
> Because of the way their sensor & transmitter are designed, you need extra
> tape to keep it all together. I have never seen the Dexcom or Navigator in
> person but it seems like those have some kind of sturdier base that the
> transmitter snaps into so they don't require extra tape over it. The stuff
> that comes built in seems to be enough, usually.
>
> --
> Liz
> Type 1 dx 4/1987
> Minimed 722 + CGMS
>
>
>
3e.

Re: newbie question about the tape discussion

Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com   tm_pearson

Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:37 am (PST)



I can not speak for the NAV, but can say that mostly it is used by MM CGMS user's because of the way the transmitter snaps into such a small sensor and can wiggle the sensor loose, so it must be taped down. As for the DEX, the transmitter snaps in on top the the sensor and is pretty darn secure....except for over time if the sensor is worn beyond the 7 days, the tape the holds it in place on your skin tends to skin peeling away around the edges and needs to be taped down OR covered with something like IV3000 to keep the sensor intact under the skin. So, that's pretty much that on Minimed CGMS and Dexcom. Never have seen the NAV or tried it so, I can not speak of what if any issues go with the NAV.

Todd
dx 12/1986
MM722 + CGMS
DEXCOM 7 Plus

________________________________
From: Elizabeth Blake <poodlebone@yahoo.com>
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 3:12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] newbie question about the tape discussion

----- Original Message ----

> From: pittsburrito <pittsburrito@ gmail.com>

> I'm not understanding where y'all are using the Flexifix/Tegaderm/ UV-3000
> tapes. Are you putting it over the entire sensor and transmitter, covering them
> completely? Or around them, where the sensor pad stops and your skin is seen?
> Is this extra tape used for all cgms, or just certain brands that need it more
> than others?

I think it's mainly the Minimed users who have all of the tape discussions. Because of the way their sensor & transmitter are designed, you need extra tape to keep it all together. I have never seen the Dexcom or Navigator in person but it seems like those have some kind of sturdier base that the transmitter snaps into so they don't require extra tape over it. The stuff that comes built in seems to be enough, usually.

--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS

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