Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: What am I missing? From: Jamie Weisbrod
- 1.2.
- Re: What am I missing? From: Andy Mayshar
- 1.3.
- Re: What am I missing? From: Msdosse@aol.com
- 1.4.
- Re: What am I missing? From: Jamie Weisbrod
- 2a.
- MM CGMS--works well for us! From: Wendy B.
- 2b.
- Re: MM CGMS--works well for us! From: Ron Ziegler
- 2c.
- Re: MM CGMS--works well for us! From: Melissa Howell
- 2d.
- Re: MM CGMS--works well for us! From: Todd Pearson
- 2e.
- CGM for kids From: Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author
- 3a.
- IV 3000 Waterproof? From: Brandy
- 3b.
- Re: IV 3000 Waterproof? From: Melissa Howell
- 3c.
- Re: IV 3000 Waterproof? From: Elizabeth Blake
Messages
- 1.1.
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Re: What am I missing?
Posted by: "Jamie Weisbrod" weisbrod@yahoo.com weisbrod
Sun Jan 3, 2010 8:31 am (PST)
Does Omnipod provide dual/square wave bolus option ?
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From: Andy Mayshar <andyma@charter.net >
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Cc: Msdosse@aol.com
Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 6:17:11 AM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] What am I missing?
Obviously your PDM is set incorrectly. Insulin duration varies by person and is not 4 hours for all. The Omnipod allows you to easily set insulin duration anywhere from 2 to 6 hours.
It never ceases to amaze me how much false information gets circulated regarding the OmniPod. Not that there aren't things on it that could be improved, but in general it is a well though out robust system.
Andy
---- Msdosse@aol. com wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/31/2009 9:35:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> adam.jensen@ gmail.com writes:
>
> I see Ted's point, but for me, I disagree. I wish my Cozmo would ignore
> food boluses for calculating IOB for at least an hour or two, because I
> still have FOB---food on board
> That's Omnipod's position, too. They say people who haven't had the other
> system get along fine. It's dangerous for this ex-Animas user, especially
> if I'm at 60 and the Omnipod is telling me I've used up all 4 units I
> dosed 2 hours ago. (hint--it takes 4 hours).
>
> Judy
- 1.2.
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Re: What am I missing?
Posted by: "Andy Mayshar" andyma@charter.net necountryboy55
Sun Jan 3, 2010 10:23 am (PST)
The OmniPod has an "Extended"function that can be used when bolusing. It allows you to specify what % of the desired bolus to be delivered now and what % to be delivered at a later time that you select. Every time you Bolus, the extend button is on the softscreen and is very easy to use.
---- Jamie Weisbrod <weisbrod@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Does Omnipod provide dual/square wave bolus option ?
>
>
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: Andy Mayshar <andyma@charter.net >
> To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
> Cc: Msdosse@aol.com
> Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 6:17:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] What am I missing?
>
>
> Obviously your PDM is set incorrectly. Insulin duration varies by person and is not 4 hours for all. The Omnipod allows you to easily set insulin duration anywhere from 2 to 6 hours.
> It never ceases to amaze me how much false information gets circulated regarding the OmniPod. Not that there aren't things on it that could be improved, but in general it is a well though out robust system.
>
> Andy
> ---- Msdosse@aol. com wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/31/2009 9:35:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > adam.jensen@ gmail.com writes:
> >
> > I see Ted's point, but for me, I disagree. I wish my Cozmo would ignore
> > food boluses for calculating IOB for at least an hour or two, because I
> > still have FOB---food on board
> > That's Omnipod's position, too. They say people who haven't had the other
> > system get along fine. It's dangerous for this ex-Animas user, especially
> > if I'm at 60 and the Omnipod is telling me I've used up all 4 units I
> > dosed 2 hours ago. (hint--it takes 4 hours).
> >
> > Judy
>
>
>
>
>
- 1.3.
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Re: What am I missing?
Posted by: "Msdosse@aol.com" Msdosse@aol.com msdosse
Sun Jan 3, 2010 10:47 am (PST)
In a message dated 1/3/2010 8:31:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
weisbrod@yahoo.com writes:
Does Omnipod provide dual/square wave bolus option ?
I've always had trouble with that terminology.
Omnipod allows for all or a percentage of a bolus to be extended from 1/2
hour to (I forget) several hours.
Judy
- 1.4.
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Re: What am I missing?
Posted by: "Jamie Weisbrod" weisbrod@yahoo.com weisbrod
Sun Jan 3, 2010 4:21 pm (PST)
This is awesome !
Thank you,
Kimi
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From: tracymfriend <friendguardt-info@yahoo. >com
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 8:13:54 PM
Subject: [diabetescgms] Re: What am I missing?
Sure! Here they are.
Sites for Patch pumps
http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/ patchp.htm
http://www.diabetes net.com/diabetes _technology/ insulinpumps_ valeritas. php
http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes _technology/ insulinpumps_ future.php
http://www.diabetesmine.com/ 2009/11/insulin- patch-pump- co-opens- up-rd.html
http://jkontherun. com/2009/ 02/19/flex- insulin-pump- concept-with- promise/
http://www.diabetes net.com/diabetes _treatments/ insulin_skin. php
http://www.solo4you.com/
http://www.nilimedi x.com/?p= products. patch
Some really look exciting!
Tracy
--- In diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com, "richard malinowski" <richard.malinowski @...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tracy
>
> Could you circulate the web sites/links please so we can all read about the "other cordless pumps"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
- 2a.
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MM CGMS--works well for us!
Posted by: "Wendy B." billingsley.wendy@gmail.com mom2type1
Sun Jan 3, 2010 5:14 pm (PST)
After reading Jeff's review, as well as several others, I wanted to add a
few thoughts regarding the MM system. My concern is that it has been given
a poor review by those it did not work for. I credit Jeff though for very
clearly indicating what he needed from a CGMS and why the Dexcom was better
for him. However, I wanted to add a few points regarding the MM system that
may not have be intuitive for someone new to this forum and CGMS systems.
I have a six year old with D. We started using the MM CGMS about 14 months
ago. We selected the MM pump when my son was four so that we could use an
integrated CGMS later if we wanted to. The MM CGMS has worked well for us,
has been accurate, and is contained to one unit if we want it to be. We
also recently received the Guardian this month and use that system at night
for better alarm covrage. When I looked at Jeff's numbers as compared
between the Dex, MM and finger stick, I was surprised to see such a disprity
between the MM system and the finger stick. On average, we are within 20
pts of a finger stick and often times, within just a few points. What may
not have been evident from the data that Jeff reported was that MM displays
an arrow (or arrows) when BG is moving quickly. Jeff did not mention this
arrow, but it is very very helpful in explaining what is going on and
clearing up why a discrepancy is seen between a sensor BG and a fingerstick
BG. We also are very careful to calibrate only when we are stable AND never
eat within 15 minutes after a calibration has been put in.
I would like to try a Dex with my son at some point because I like that
calibrating is easier. However, after playing around with The Guardian, I
realize one unit is enough in his little pocket. Because of our MM CGMS, we
are able to get great sleeping numbers. His A1c was has been 6.5 or 6.7
since beginning the system 14 mos ago. Our ped endo states that only 10
percent of his ped diab population is under 7 percent. We feel lucky to
have this system. What I really love about it is that my 6 year old uses it
to understand what he is feeling. When he is feeling low, he takes it out
of his pocket and notes that it might say 116 with an arrow heading down.
He understands that "yes---I am dropping". By the way---with Emla,
insertion is painless---even for a six year old. We are about to put a new
sensor in any minute--Sensor Sunday. OH---because if does have an ISIG
displayed, I can get a pretty good idea what is going on with his BG even
when I have not calibrated and a BG is not displayed. This comes with
experience.
Off to change a sensor. Hope this adds an additional perspective.
Wendy
- 2b.
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Re: MM CGMS--works well for us!
Posted by: "Ron Ziegler" ronnielee2u@yahoo.com ronnielee2u
Sun Jan 3, 2010 5:33 pm (PST)
Thanks Wendy. I am one of a large contingent at our VA that is very pleased with our pump and cgms, which are all Medtronics. I have a MM trainer's cell phone number to use at any time should I have a problem or question. I have never used it, because I have not had that problem or question. Of course, I had been on the pump for 5 years before going on the CGMS. It would have been a bit overwhelming had I gone on the pump and cgms at the same time. Most discourage doing this anyway for this precise reason.
I know you can't please all the people and I have since learned you can't please any person some times.
So I really don't care what system a diabetic uses, nor should anyone else. As long as it works for that diabetic, that's really all that matters. It seems some want everyone else to use "their" system regardless, which is absurd.
I am glad things are working well for you and your little guy, and I hope it just improves from here.
Best of luck to all,
Ron
MM722+CGMS Type 1 27 years
.
--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Wendy B. <billingsley.wendy@gmail. > wrote:com
From: Wendy B. <billingsley.wendy@gmail. >com
Subject: [diabetescgms] MM CGMS--works well for us!
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:13 PM
After reading Jeff's review, as well as several others, I wanted to add a few thoughts regarding the MM system. My concern is that it has been given a poor review by those it did not work for. I credit Jeff though for very clearly indicating what he needed from a CGMS and why the Dexcom was better for him. However, I wanted to add a few points regarding the MM system that may not have be intuitive for someone new to this forum and CGMS systems.
I have a six year old with D. We started using the MM CGMS about 14 months ago. We selected the MM pump when my son was four so that we could use an integrated CGMS later if we wanted to. The MM CGMS has worked well for us, has been accurate, and is contained to one unit if we want it to be. We also recently received the Guardian this month and use that system at night for better alarm covrage. When I looked at Jeff's numbers as compared between the Dex, MM and finger stick, I was surprised to see such a disprity between the MM system and the finger stick. On average, we are within 20 pts of a finger stick and often times, within just a few points. What may not have been evident from the data that Jeff reported was that MM displays an arrow (or arrows) when BG is moving quickly. Jeff did not mention this arrow, but it is very very helpful in explaining what is going on and clearing up why a discrepancy is seen
between a sensor BG and a fingerstick BG. We also are very careful to calibrate only when we are stable AND never eat within 15 minutes after a calibration has been put in.
I would like to try a Dex with my son at some point because I like that calibrating is easier. However, after playing around with The Guardian, I realize one unit is enough in his little pocket. Because of our MM CGMS, we are able to get great sleeping numbers. His A1c was has been 6.5 or 6.7 since beginning the system 14 mos ago. Our ped endo states that only 10 percent of his ped diab population is under 7 percent. We feel lucky to have this system. What I really love about it is that my 6 year old uses it to understand what he is feeling. When he is feeling low, he takes it out of his pocket and notes that it might say 116 with an arrow heading down. He understands that "yes---I am dropping". By the way---with Emla, insertion is painless---even for a six year old. We are about to put a new sensor in any minute--Sensor Sunday. OH---because if does have an ISIG displayed, I can get a pretty good idea what is going
on with his BG even when I have not calibrated and a BG is not displayed. This comes with experience.
Off to change a sensor. Hope this adds an additional perspective.
Wendy
- 2c.
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Re: MM CGMS--works well for us!
Posted by: "Melissa Howell" melissahowell@embarqmail.com sabhow
Sun Jan 3, 2010 5:55 pm (PST)
Wendy,
I am glad this system is working well for your child. I was dx at 10, started pumping with MM at 14 and I am now 31 and still on a MM. I just started CGMS a few months ago with MM and its been great. No system is going to be 100% but I have loved having this wonderful system to help me gain even better control. Thank you for your email, just goes to show that younger kids r using the pump and cgms every day and its a great tool to diabetes care!!
melissa
----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy B.
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: [diabetescgms] MM CGMS--works well for us!
After reading Jeff's review, as well as several others, I wanted to add a few thoughts regarding the MM system. My concern is that it has been given a poor review by those it did not work for. I credit Jeff though for very clearly indicating what he needed from a CGMS and why the Dexcom was better for him. However, I wanted to add a few points regarding the MM system that may not have be intuitive for someone new to this forum and CGMS systems.
I have a six year old with D. We started using the MM CGMS about 14 months ago. We selected the MM pump when my son was four so that we could use an integrated CGMS later if we wanted to. The MM CGMS has worked well for us, has been accurate, and is contained to one unit if we want it to be. We also recently received the Guardian this month and use that system at night for better alarm covrage. When I looked at Jeff's numbers as compared between the Dex, MM and finger stick, I was surprised to see such a disprity between the MM system and the finger stick. On average, we are within 20 pts of a finger stick and often times, within just a few points. What may not have been evident from the data that Jeff reported was that MM displays an arrow (or arrows) when BG is moving quickly. Jeff did not mention this arrow, but it is very very helpful in explaining what is going on and clearing up why a discrepancy is seen between a sensor BG and a fingerstick BG. We also are very careful to calibrate only when we are stable AND never eat within 15 minutes after a calibration has been put in.
I would like to try a Dex with my son at some point because I like that calibrating is easier. However, after playing around with The Guardian, I realize one unit is enough in his little pocket. Because of our MM CGMS, we are able to get great sleeping numbers. His A1c was has been 6.5 or 6.7 since beginning the system 14 mos ago. Our ped endo states that only 10 percent of his ped diab population is under 7 percent. We feel lucky to have this system. What I really love about it is that my 6 year old uses it to understand what he is feeling. When he is feeling low, he takes it out of his pocket and notes that it might say 116 with an arrow heading down. He understands that "yes---I am dropping". By the way---with Emla, insertion is painless---even for a six year old. We are about to put a new sensor in any minute--Sensor Sunday. OH---because if does have an ISIG displayed, I can get a pretty good idea what is going on with his BG even when I have not calibrated and a BG is not displayed. This comes with experience.
Off to change a sensor. Hope this adds an additional perspective.
Wendy
- 2d.
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Re: MM CGMS--works well for us!
Posted by: "Todd Pearson" tm_pearson@yahoo.com tm_pearson
Sun Jan 3, 2010 6:00 pm (PST)
I have to agree with Ron on this. Even thou, I had been on the Dexcom for many years even with the Clinical Trials, it just happens to work the best for me in lots of ways. MM CGMS has been terrible, but what may work for me may not work for another or visa-versa. Now, I just need to try the Guardian and see how that works for me, but I don't like the idea of a 10 hour insertion.
The downside to MM is that the screen is so SMALL and hard to read...well at least for us that have been on this earth awhile......:) Plus, the other thing I don't like is the fact that you ONLY have a 3 hours and 24 hour screens. Where the DEX has 1,3,9, 24 hour screen and it's easier to read. Now, on the upside for MM, its nice to only carry 1 device and it's nice to be able to upload both CGMS and Pump info to Carelink system. Other then that, I havn't really found anything else I've liked about the system. So, I'm happy to know I will be back on my Dexcom system this week.
Wendy, I'm so happy that your soon has an A1C under 7%. That is GREAT! Again, have an integrated system and that it works for all of you, just means that it does, but truthfully if we all could just try all 3 systems out and get a feel for each and which works best, can be a huge life saver in the long run.
Jeff's comparison was great. Now, who wants to put all 3 (MM, DEX, & Guardian) on them at the same time......:)
Todd
dx 12/1986
MM722 + CGMS
Soon to be back on Dexcom SevenPlus
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From: Ron Ziegler <ronnielee2u@yahoo.com >
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 5:33:51 PM
Subject: Re: [diabetescgms] MM CGMS--works well for us!
Thanks Wendy. I am one of a large contingent at our VA that is very pleased with our pump and cgms, which are all Medtronics. I have a MM trainer's cell phone number to use at any time should I have a problem or question. I have never used it, because I have not had that problem or question. Of course, I had been on the pump for 5 years before going on the CGMS. It would have been a bit overwhelming had I gone on the pump and cgms at the same time. Most discourage doing this anyway for this precise reason.
I know you can't please all the people and I have since learned you can't please any person some times.
So I really don't care what system a diabetic uses, nor should anyone else. As long as it works for that diabetic, that's really all that matters. It seems some want everyone else to use "their" system regardless, which is absurd.
I am glad things are working well for you and your little guy, and I hope it just improves from here.
Best of luck to all,
Ron
MM722+CGMS Type 1 27 years
.
--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Wendy B. <billingsley. wendy@gmail. com> wrote:
>From: Wendy B. <billingsley. wendy@gmail. com>
>Subject: [diabetescgms] MM CGMS--works well for us!
>To: diabetescgms@ yahoogroups. com
>Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:13 PM
>
>
>
>After reading Jeff's review, as well as several others, I wanted to add a few thoughts regarding the MM system. My concern is that it has been given a poor review by those it did not work for. I credit Jeff though for very clearly indicating what he needed from a CGMS and why the Dexcom was better for him. However, I wanted to add a few points regarding the MM system that may not have be intuitive for someone new to this forum and CGMS systems.
>
>I have a six year old with D. We started using the MM CGMS about 14 months ago. We selected the MM pump when my son was four so that we could use an integrated CGMS later if we wanted to. The MM CGMS has worked well for us, has been accurate, and is contained to one unit if we want it to be. We also recently received the Guardian this month and use that system at night for better alarm covrage. When I looked at Jeff's numbers as compared between the Dex, MM and finger stick, I was surprised to see such a disprity between the MM system and the finger stick. On average, we are within 20 pts of a finger stick and often times, within just a few points. What may not have been evident from the data that Jeff reported was that MM displays an arrow (or arrows) when BG is moving quickly. Jeff did not mention this arrow, but
> it is very very helpful in explaining what is going on and clearing up why a discrepancy is seen between a sensor BG and a fingerstick BG. We also are very careful to calibrate only when we are stable AND never eat within 15 minutes after a calibration has been put in.
>
>I would like to try a Dex with my son at some point because I like that calibrating is easier. However, after playing around with The Guardian, I realize one unit is enough in his little pocket. Because of our MM CGMS, we are able to get great sleeping numbers. His A1c was has been 6.5 or 6.7 since beginning the system 14 mos ago. Our ped endo states that only 10 percent of his ped diab population is under 7 percent. We feel lucky to have this system. What I really love about it is that my 6 year old uses it to understand what he is feeling. When he is feeling low, he takes it out of his pocket and notes that it might say 116 with an arrow heading down. He understands that "yes---I am dropping". By the way---with Emla, insertion is painless---even for a six year old. We are about to put a new sensor in any
> minute--Sensor Sunday. OH---because if does have an ISIG displayed, I can get a pretty good idea what is going on with his BG even when I have not calibrated and a BG is not displayed. This comes with experience.
>
>Off to change a sensor. Hope this adds an additional perspective.
>
>Wendy
>
>
- 2e.
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CGM for kids
Posted by: "Jeff Nathan, Award-Winning Author" jeff@incredibleassemblies.com chucklejeff
Sun Jan 3, 2010 6:30 pm (PST)
Wendy and Ron raised some very good points. No system is going to be
perfect for EVERBODY---at least not yet. (Those pump patches look like they
have great promise someday, though.) My eval was for MY relationship with a
CGM system and different people will interact differently with each of them.
One thing that really disheartens me is when I visit elementary schools and
hear from some of the diabetic kids that their doctors have them targeting
150 for their blood glucose levels. I'm very glad that your son is doing so
well, Wendy.
There used to be that argument about tight control being ill-advised because
of the immediate dangers of lows. It would be good if we could put our heads
together and come up with a way to educate the medical community that CGM
can be used to avoid those dangers, thereby avoiding the neuropathy dangers
that poorly controlled kids will face later on. I have seen, firsthand, that
this education is a necessity. Any ideas, anybody?
-jeff toll-free: 1-888-967-3386
Award-Winning Children's Author, Jeff Nathan, presents
CurricuLaughs
Curriculum-tied Language Arts Education through HUMOR
"... by far, the best set of presentations I have seen in our school system
."
Dr. Marc Kerble Assistant Superintendent Winchester Schools
Winchester, MA
". a student said it best. "You Rock!" From the mouth of babes, Jeff you
were sensational. Thank you ever so much!"
Kristine O. Murray Media Enrichment Specialist Maghakian Memorial
School Brookline, NH
see these and other raving testimonials at
<http://www.IncredibleAssemblies. > www.IncredibleAssemcom blies.com
From: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. [mailto:diabetescgms@com yahoogroups. ] Oncom
Behalf Of Wendy B.
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:14 PM
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [diabetescgms] MM CGMS--works well for us!
After reading Jeff's review, as well as several others, I wanted to add a
few thoughts regarding the MM system. My concern is that it has been given
a poor review by those it did not work for. I credit Jeff though for very
clearly indicating what he needed from a CGMS and why the Dexcom was better
for him. However, I wanted to add a few points regarding the MM system that
may not have be intuitive for someone new to this forum and CGMS systems.
I have a six year old with D. We started using the MM CGMS about 14 months
ago. We selected the MM pump when my son was four so that we could use an
integrated CGMS later if we wanted to. The MM CGMS has worked well for us,
has been accurate, and is contained to one unit if we want it to be. We
also recently received the Guardian this month and use that system at night
for better alarm covrage. When I looked at Jeff's numbers as compared
between the Dex, MM and finger stick, I was surprised to see such a disprity
between the MM system and the finger stick. On average, we are within 20
pts of a finger stick and often times, within just a few points. What may
not have been evident from the data that Jeff reported was that MM displays
an arrow (or arrows) when BG is moving quickly. Jeff did not mention this
arrow, but it is very very helpful in explaining what is going on and
clearing up why a discrepancy is seen between a sensor BG and a fingerstick
BG. We also are very careful to calibrate only when we are stable AND never
eat within 15 minutes after a calibration has been put in.
I would like to try a Dex with my son at some point because I like that
calibrating is easier. However, after playing around with The Guardian, I
realize one unit is enough in his little pocket. Because of our MM CGMS, we
are able to get great sleeping numbers. His A1c was has been 6.5 or 6.7
since beginning the system 14 mos ago. Our ped endo states that only 10
percent of his ped diab population is under 7 percent. We feel lucky to
have this system. What I really love about it is that my 6 year old uses it
to understand what he is feeling. When he is feeling low, he takes it out
of his pocket and notes that it might say 116 with an arrow heading down.
He understands that "yes---I am dropping". By the way---with Emla,
insertion is painless---even for a six year old. We are about to put a new
sensor in any minute--Sensor Sunday. OH---because if does have an ISIG
displayed, I can get a pretty good idea what is going on with his BG even
when I have not calibrated and a BG is not displayed. This comes with
experience.
Off to change a sensor. Hope this adds an additional perspective.
Wendy
- 3a.
-
IV 3000 Waterproof?
Posted by: "Brandy" volleyheels13@yahoo.com volleyheels13
Sun Jan 3, 2010 7:15 pm (PST)
Okay so the IV 3000 is what came with my CGMS to use to cover it. One thing that I have found is every time I get out of the shower, there is water pooling around the sensor. I always change it because I am worried about skin breakdown. I make sure that the "top" of the IV 3000 is completely flat with no bubbles or anything. So, with that being said, am I just having bad luck or is the IV 3000 not really waterproof? Any other things out there that is so I am not having to change the stuff all the time. I normally keep my sensor in for anywhere between 14 - 21 days. 21 was my limit. I started getting freaked out and was worrying I would get an infection! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Brandy
Dx 2/9/04
MM 722 + CGMS
- 3b.
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Re: IV 3000 Waterproof?
Posted by: "Melissa Howell" melissahowell@embarqmail.com sabhow
Sun Jan 3, 2010 7:18 pm (PST)
i use that iv3000 with my MM too and i only take it off to change it when i have to recharge-it does seem a lil wet but ive never had any skin probs and it seems to dry just fine
melissa
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandy
To: diabetescgms@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: [diabetescgms] IV 3000 Waterproof?
Okay so the IV 3000 is what came with my CGMS to use to cover it. One thing that I have found is every time I get out of the shower, there is water pooling around the sensor. I always change it because I am worried about skin breakdown. I make sure that the "top" of the IV 3000 is completely flat with no bubbles or anything. So, with that being said, am I just having bad luck or is the IV 3000 not really waterproof? Any other things out there that is so I am not having to change the stuff all the time. I normally keep my sensor in for anywhere between 14 - 21 days. 21 was my limit. I started getting freaked out and was worrying I would get an infection! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Brandy
Dx 2/9/04
MM 722 + CGMS
- 3c.
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Re: IV 3000 Waterproof?
Posted by: "Elizabeth Blake" poodlebone@yahoo.com poodlebone
Sun Jan 3, 2010 8:13 pm (PST)
----- Original Message ----
> From: Brandy <volleyheels13@yahoo.com >
> Okay so the IV 3000 is what came with my CGMS to use to cover it. One thing
> that I have found is every time I get out of the shower, there is water pooling
> around the sensor. I always change it because I am worried about skin
> breakdown. I make sure that the "top" of the IV 3000 is completely flat with no
> bubbles or anything. So, with that being said, am I just having bad luck or is
> the IV 3000 not really waterproof? Any other things out there that is so I am
> not having to change the stuff all the time. I normally keep my sensor in for
> anywhere between 14 - 21 days. 21 was my limit. I started getting freaked out
> and was worrying I would get an infection! Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks!
I find that I end up with water under the dressing when I use IV3000 as well, and that's just another reason why it is far from my first choice. I don't find that it sticks as well as other options. If there's even the tiniest fold in the dressing water gets in and it all starts to peel up. In the summer it sweats right off.
If the tape seems to be sticking well you can just use a lancet to poke a hole in the dressing to drain the water out rather than changing it all. The water won't affect the sensor/transmitter because once they're connected the system is waterproof. However, once water gets in I find that it will all start to loosen and pull up very soon anyway.
You should look for a roll of 4" Opsite Flexifix. It comes in a roll rather than individual pieces. It holds far better than IV3000 (they're made by the same company) and since it's one piece you don't have to worry about overlapping individual pieces. I find that even Tegaderm holds better than IV3000 but the Flexifix is better. You can also use Hypafix, which is not waterproof. It's like the adhesive that's built into infusion sets, like cloth and breathable. Water & sweat evaporate quickly and I find that I get no irritation from it even in the summer when every other tape bothers my skin. As I said, once the transmitter is connected to the sensor it's waterproof so your tape/dressing does not have to be. I use Hypafix exclusively during the summer.
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Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed 722 + CGMS
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